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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #35
38. The correct answer was YES. It was steel and it collapsed due to fire.
Didn't you just confirm your previous statement: "... steel buildings do not, repeat not collapse except through the use of explosives"?

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  -A few questions for the conspiracy theorists. TheWraith  Aug-22-06 05:23 PM   #0 
  - There haven't been any such collapses.  dailykoff   Aug-22-06 05:58 PM   #1 
  - Exactly...  quickesst   Aug-22-06 06:32 PM   #2 
  - You mean no building in history has ever collapsed?  TheWraith   Aug-22-06 09:55 PM   #6 
  - Did I say that?  dailykoff   Aug-22-06 10:04 PM   #7 
  - OTOH, you have said that steel buildings only collapse from explosives.  Make7   Aug-22-06 10:21 PM   #9 
     - Bingo  dailykoff   Aug-22-06 10:33 PM   #11 
        - Was the McCormick Place Exhibition Center a steel building? YES or NO? nt.  Make7   Aug-23-06 03:27 AM   #34 
           - see below  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 06:21 AM   #35 
              - The correct answer was YES. It was steel and it collapsed due to fire.  Make7   Aug-23-06 08:28 AM   #38 
              - not a highrise. Neither are the steel garden sheds  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 11:45 AM   #51 
                 - "...over 500,000 square feet of exhibition space."  Make7   Aug-23-06 07:07 PM   #75 
                    - A big shed is still a shed,  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 08:32 PM   #80 
                       - It's still a steel building that collapsed due to fire.  Make7   Aug-23-06 09:00 PM   #85 
              - Was the Pino Suarez highrise a steel building? YES or NO? nt.  Make7   Aug-23-06 08:31 AM   #39 
                 - toppled in an earthquake, did not collapse. (n/t)  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 11:46 AM   #52 
                    - "Total collapse of the 21 story Pino Suarez tower..."  Make7   Aug-23-06 05:58 PM   #74 
                       - It toppled. Check the photos. (n/t)  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 08:31 PM   #79 
                          - The civil engineers that wrote that report forgot to look at the photos.  Make7   Aug-23-06 08:57 PM   #83 
  - Really?  wildbilln864   Aug-22-06 10:09 PM   #8 
  - McCormick Place Exhibition Center, Chicago, 1967.  TheWraith   Aug-22-06 10:54 PM   #14 
     - A shed is not a highrise. (n/t)  dailykoff   Aug-22-06 11:16 PM   #18 
     - What is your take on the steel structure of the Windsor Tower?  Carefulplease   Aug-22-06 11:29 PM   #21 
        - The Windsor was not a steel-framed building  dailykoff   Aug-22-06 11:32 PM   #22 
           - However much of the perimeter steel frame collapsed. Why?  Carefulplease   Aug-23-06 12:04 AM   #24 
              - Because it was a crappy unfireproofed curtain wall.  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 01:38 AM   #27 
                 - It really was fire alone that produced this collapse ?!  Carefulplease   Aug-23-06 02:33 AM   #31 
                    - Strain any harder  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 02:40 AM   #32 
                       - You have a fondness for unsubstantial one-liners...  Carefulplease   Aug-23-06 03:09 AM   #33 
                       - Bottom line, fire can collapse steel.  TheWraith   Aug-23-06 12:38 PM   #60 
                          - You're grasping at straws.  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 12:48 PM   #61 
                             - How was the steel of the Windsor Tower relevantly different? n/t  Carefulplease   Aug-23-06 01:43 PM   #66 
                                - In every relevant way.  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 08:40 PM   #82 
                                   - Yes, list them please, Friday or whenever suits you. n/t  Carefulplease   Aug-23-06 09:08 PM   #86 
     - Roof collapse you can see in the pictures  Sinti   Aug-23-06 12:21 PM   #59 
     - You have now answered you first question.  mhatrw   Aug-23-06 03:50 PM   #70 
        - Not really.  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 08:35 PM   #81 
           - Oh Great Master of Spin...  Carefulplease   Aug-23-06 09:21 PM   #87 
  - When someone has to resort  DoYouEverWonder   Aug-23-06 07:11 PM   #76 
  - These structures were so unique that their collapse does not represent  greyl   Aug-22-06 11:20 PM   #19 
     - I'll bet he sold a lot of wrenches that day. (n/t)  dailykoff   Aug-23-06 01:41 AM   #28 
        - "Wenches" - not "wrenches" n/t  AZCat   Aug-23-06 01:44 AM   #29 
        - What a pitiful response! nt  greyl   Aug-23-06 01:53 AM   #30 
  - ..  petgoat   Aug-22-06 06:44 PM   #3 
  - Petgoat, well done. :-) eom  Klimmer   Aug-22-06 08:18 PM   #4 
  - This is better.  TheWraith   Aug-22-06 10:30 PM   #10 
     - TheWraith, better done. :-) eom  Carefulplease   Aug-22-06 10:50 PM   #13 
     - Addition on the subject of the fire.  TheWraith   Aug-22-06 11:01 PM   #15 
     - A fine synopsis regarding these outlandish theories.  planeman   Aug-23-06 08:35 AM   #40 
     - You must be joking.  mhatrw   Aug-23-06 04:23 PM   #71 
     - How about upper structures in motion?  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 04:54 PM   #73 
     - Physics challenged?  hack89   Aug-23-06 07:33 PM   #78 
     - Not in the least. Are you?  TheWraith   Aug-25-06 02:29 PM   #89 
     - I think the 2 WTC collapse is incorrect  TomClash   Aug-23-06 08:57 PM   #84 
  - Well...  Sinti   Aug-22-06 08:23 PM   #5 
  - Yes, exactly.  TheWraith   Aug-22-06 10:49 PM   #12 
     - Read "The Terror Timeline".  HughBeaumont   Aug-22-06 11:11 PM   #17 
     - I'll offer a quick and dirty, if you care to you can read the Timeline  Sinti   Aug-23-06 01:15 AM   #26 
        - Edited  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 07:54 AM   #37 
        - I only posted Facts that are not in dispute.  Sinti   Aug-23-06 10:53 AM   #49 
           - Ok....I'll spend more time answering you  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 12:06 PM   #56 
        - I'll go ahead and assume that all or most of that is true...  TheWraith   Aug-23-06 01:11 PM   #63 
           - My few paragraphs barely scratch the surface. If you're interested  Sinti   Aug-23-06 02:03 PM   #67 
              - The only way to investigate the White House fully  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 02:14 PM   #68 
              - Such excellent questions, Sinti  Hope2006   Aug-23-06 04:52 PM   #72 
                 - Gee thanks  Sinti   Aug-23-06 07:14 PM   #77 
  - heres a little gem  Sven77   Aug-22-06 11:06 PM   #16 
  - That claim has been long since debunked.  TheWraith   Aug-23-06 01:14 PM   #64 
  - Welcome, TheWraith  Bryan Sacks   Aug-22-06 11:20 PM   #20 
  - I beg to disagree...  Carefulplease   Aug-22-06 11:42 PM   #23 
  - Do whatever you like  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 08:53 AM   #41 
     - New inquirers?  Make7   Aug-23-06 09:17 AM   #43 
        - lol. n/t  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 09:21 AM   #44 
        - I'm new, but he hasn't answered my question  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 09:22 AM   #45 
        - I stand corrected  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 11:49 AM   #54 
  - "among the least-knowable elements of the 9/11 story" ?  greyl   Aug-23-06 12:34 AM   #25 
  - You are making jokes  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 09:10 AM   #42 
     - Ah, a fallacious Appeal to Gravity.  greyl   Aug-23-06 12:18 PM   #58 
  - Ok....then could you  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 07:46 AM   #36 
     - done it many times here, Jim. some places to start:  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 09:25 AM   #46 
        - Thanks, my initial thoughts  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 10:02 AM   #47 
        - Jim, i look forward to it.  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 11:25 AM   #50 
        - more elaboration on #2  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 10:41 AM   #48 
           - you may misunderstand my purpose  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 11:48 AM   #53 
              - more on point 1  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 12:02 PM   #55 
              - The incompetence is mostly in the White House  Jim4Wes   Aug-23-06 12:18 PM   #57 
                 - Hey, no problem  Bryan Sacks   Aug-23-06 12:50 PM   #62 
                    - This and that  KJF   Aug-23-06 01:21 PM   #65 
  - A considered response.  mhatrw   Aug-23-06 03:46 PM   #69 
     - A considered rebuttal.  TheWraith   Aug-25-06 02:13 PM   #88 
 

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