Reply #68: extremely curious though

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"the turn happened even before the C-130 got in the air, which was at 9:36. There was nothing else in the air at the time of the turn."?

Definitely not according to the pilot of the C130, i.e.

"When we took off, we headed north and west and had a beautiful view of the Mall," he said. "I noticed this airplane up and to the left of us, at 10 o'clock. He was descending to our altitude, four miles away or so.
It was like coming up to an intersection. When air traffic control asked me if we had him in sight, I told him that was an understatement -- by then, he had pretty much filled our windscreen. Then he made a pretty aggressive turn so he was moving right in front of us, a mile and a half, two miles away.
That's awful close, so I was surprised he wasn't calling out to us."


Not quite the same then as the other version, i.e.

"Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes."
.... "That is not the radar data that we have seen," Fleischer said, adding, "The plane was headed toward the White House."


Why no mention at all of the C130 in the reports of the ATC radar observations?

When understandings contradict to that extent I doubt them.

Somehow the C130 got from Adrews Air Base (from the east), over Washington and then over the Pentagon (from the west), through the smoke, apparently in pusuit of the B757.

So how then did it do so if not through something like a 270 degree turn?

And how did the C130 pilot know where to chase the B757 if (as
he asserted) he lost sight of it in the mean time? No sale. I don't buy it.

The pilot's version comes from an article by Bob Von Sternberg.
It was originally at href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/3213501.html"
but the link is defunct. It may still be around on Lexis Nexis or elswhere.

To my mind the version from the control tower (sees the plane turning to the right and descending) does not endorse the 270 degree turn version. The 270 turn would have taken the plane over DCA or to the east of the airport and only then behind the Crystal city buildings for a few seconds. How very odd then to see no specific mention of the turn/dive from Chris Stephenson when it would have passed so flagrantly across the authorised DCA flight paths!

I tend to prefer the other official version:
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer suggests the plane goes even closer to the White House, saying, "That is not the radar data that we have seen. The plane was headed toward the White House."

If Flight 77 passed within a few miles of the White House, why couldn't it have been shot down by the weapons on the White House?

Perhaps it was. Why else would they be so strangely keen to let the 'No Boeing' nonsense go on for so long? They must surely have more than enough evidence to kill that off overnight if they'd really wanted to.

:hurts:

It stinks.