shira
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Wed May-19-10 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #70 |
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It shouldn't make any difference whether or not CAMERA is cited or not, only whether it's a credible and reliable source of information. Are you so disconnected from reality not to understand that you can't just deride a source because "Shira likes it" or because it's "Jewish"?  Sigh. I don't have the time or stomach for yet another pretend logical discussion with a true-believer. Seriously - the only language your types understand is mocking and derision. You're absolutely impervious to reasoning.
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| -Palestinians mark Naqba |
IndianaGreen |
May-15-10 09:31 AM |
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Juan Cole's historically accurate, or is that hysterically inaccurate version, of the Nakbah |
shira |
May-17-10 05:20 AM |
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The latter. n/t |
aranthus |
May-17-10 02:37 PM |
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Juan Cole is nowhere mentioned in OP or in Video |
IndianaGreen |
May-17-10 04:07 PM |
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The thread is about the Nakbah so I quoted Cole on the Nakbah |
shira |
May-17-10 06:38 PM |
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False history doesn't serve them well. |
aranthus |
May-17-10 04:11 PM |
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Not even 1% true |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-17-10 08:52 PM |
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Bull |
aranthus |
May-17-10 11:15 PM |
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You need to crack more history books and less propaganda pamphlets. |
proteus_lives |
May-18-10 02:59 AM |
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+1 |
proteus_lives |
May-18-10 02:58 AM |
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You'd be incorrect |
Chulanowa |
May-21-10 11:07 PM |
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the naqba |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-18-10 12:22 AM |
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No, that's Naqba revision. Lies and false narratives will not bring peace to the region. |
shira |
May-18-10 10:18 AM |
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Thanks I knew we only had to wait a bit before |
azurnoir |
May-18-10 11:16 AM |
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basic facts about the Naqba have been know for a long time - by scholars in the Western World |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-18-10 10:44 AM |
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Cheers for posting that douglas |
Tripmann |
May-18-10 11:08 AM |
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You're thanking him for posting propaganda? |
shira |
May-18-10 11:27 AM |
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Oooh, a link to an israeli website |
Tripmann |
May-18-10 11:35 AM |
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That's pretty juvenille. Why not first try to demonstrate that a source's facts are questionable... |
shira |
May-18-10 04:44 PM |
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You don't 'bring' jewish sources into debates |
Tripmann |
May-19-10 11:24 AM |
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You can't dispute the facts or the logic/reasoning so you assault the source as being "Jewish" |
shira |
May-19-10 11:55 AM |
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I don't assault the source, I ridicule you |
Tripmann |
May-19-10 12:13 PM |
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I use sources that are factually accurate, reliable and credible |
shira |
May-19-10 12:35 PM |
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Brilliant |
Tripmann |
May-19-10 02:41 PM |
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Ridiculous |
shira |
May-19-10 02:54 PM |
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Classic |
Tripmann |
May-19-10 03:03 PM |
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What a load of shit |
shira |
May-19-10 03:13 PM |
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If it makes no difference |
Tripmann |
May-19-10 03:16 PM |
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I answered your question in #69 above |
shira |
May-19-10 03:21 PM |
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So you could post what you just posted. |
Tripmann |
May-19-10 03:30 PM |
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Huh?!? |
shira |
May-19-10 03:49 PM |
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Yep, it sucks when you lose a war you started. |
proteus_lives |
May-18-10 02:57 AM |
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Telling me to start reading history books when you are the one who need it |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-18-10 05:32 AM |
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Are you aware of the Hebron Massacre (1929) or the Hadassah Medical Convoy Massacre (April 1948)? |
oberliner |
May-18-10 06:57 AM |
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fortunately the vast majority of Hebron Jews were spared because their Arab neighbors sheltered them |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-18-10 08:23 AM |
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You seem only to present anti-Zionist sources for your claims |
oberliner |
May-18-10 11:41 AM |
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at least now you're showing your true colors - you're no moderate |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-19-10 02:50 AM |
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In response to your comments |
oberliner |
May-19-10 06:31 AM |
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Talking about specific time |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-18-10 08:58 PM |
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School? Media? |
proteus_lives |
May-18-10 11:31 AM |
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a war who started? |
azurnoir |
May-18-10 01:27 PM |
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"Let them celebrate today," she muttered. "Soon they'll all be dead." |
oberliner |
May-18-10 02:07 PM |
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So words in Cairo justify |
azurnoir |
May-18-10 02:34 PM |
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I don't know what you are talking about |
oberliner |
May-18-10 04:31 PM |
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Really, your own headline belies your intent |
azurnoir |
May-19-10 11:27 AM |
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Historical contextual information is always helpful |
oberliner |
May-20-10 07:34 AM |
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Of course war was an inevitable result of partition. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 02:20 AM |
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Palestine in the early 20th century was not similar to Britain |
oberliner |
May-19-10 07:19 AM |
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Now? |
proteus_lives |
May-18-10 02:59 PM |
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Please if that were true there would be a Palestinian country |
azurnoir |
May-18-10 03:33 PM |
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If they had all stayed... |
proteus_lives |
May-18-10 03:41 PM |
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like Deir Yassin and Gaza ? n/t |
azurnoir |
May-18-10 04:02 PM |
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You forget that residents in Gaza and the West Bank after they were overun were treated very poorly |
ProgressiveProfessor |
May-19-10 11:34 AM |
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Arabs declared 48 war |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-18-10 09:18 PM |
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Too much propaganda, you're blind. |
proteus_lives |
May-19-10 02:50 AM |
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You are Naive |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-19-10 04:35 AM |
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And you have been fed hate all your life. |
proteus_lives |
May-19-10 11:15 AM |
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? |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-19-10 11:24 PM |
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Facts? |
proteus_lives |
May-20-10 01:44 AM |
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Okay lets leave the Childish name calling and talk only about Facts |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-20-10 05:20 AM |
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Depends. |
proteus_lives |
May-21-10 12:52 AM |
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So it doesn't have defined borders? |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-21-10 01:36 AM |
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Because of the wars that has been waged upon them. |
proteus_lives |
May-21-10 02:11 PM |
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The Arabs did not start the war, the colonists did. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-18-10 07:47 PM |
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Truly staggering that a person can believe this |
oberliner |
May-18-10 09:13 PM |
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It was actually |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-18-10 09:50 PM |
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What do you think should happen now? |
oberliner |
May-19-10 07:13 AM |
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I think aiming for a fair resolution of the situation would be a catastrophe. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 07:30 AM |
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Are there any countries in their current form that can fairly remain as they are? |
oberliner |
May-19-10 08:17 AM |
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I think both those statements are true. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 11:47 AM |
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Thanks for your response |
oberliner |
May-20-10 07:34 AM |
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Absolutely - no solution without full RoR would be fair. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-20-10 12:24 PM |
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Are you for keeping refugees in camps another 60 years or for allowing them... |
shira |
May-20-10 01:26 PM |
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Nonsense. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 02:06 AM |
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The Zionist movement and the Palestinian independence movement could have occured side-by-side |
oberliner |
May-19-10 07:10 AM |
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I bet you think that it "sucks" that the Holocaust failed too. |
proteus_lives |
May-19-10 02:51 AM |
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How much? You're on. N.T. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 02:57 AM |
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We don't have any relation with the Holocaust |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-19-10 04:58 AM |
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Your land? |
proteus_lives |
May-19-10 11:13 AM |
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I don't want Israel destroyed; I do want its political system destroyed. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 08:36 PM |
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"The foundation of Israel was an unprovoked and unjustifiable act of aggression" |
proteus_lives |
May-19-10 09:57 PM |
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Just because I opposed the conception does not mean I support infanticide. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-20-10 03:36 AM |
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All of them. |
proteus_lives |
May-21-10 12:49 AM |
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Including Jerusalem? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-21-10 02:42 AM |
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Jerusalem is a separate issue. |
proteus_lives |
May-21-10 02:27 PM |
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Ah yes |
Tripmann |
May-18-10 04:52 AM |
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Israel has a massive problem with Nakba denial. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-18-10 12:56 PM |
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If only you controlled the curriculum for Israeli school children |
oberliner |
May-18-10 02:18 PM |
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For what it's worth, the position you present as parody is I think basically accurate. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-18-10 07:43 PM |
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I am coming to understand this from your other posts |
oberliner |
May-19-10 07:12 AM |
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Are you aware of the dismal state of history education in America? |
Chulanowa |
May-23-10 03:41 AM |
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Lol What denial They are happy They did it |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-18-10 09:01 PM |
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What do you mean, "they"? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-19-10 01:46 AM |
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I would love it to be the reality |
Eg-ptiangirl |
May-19-10 05:09 AM |
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