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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 05:27 AM
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62. yeah, right
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 05:33 AM by shira
1. The fact remains your viewpoints on I/P are out of the leftwing mainstream in both the USA and Israel. Do you agree?


2. Just to be clear, you speaking up for Gazans against their Hamas masters is like Goldstone speaking up against Hamas in his stupid report. As Dershowitz just recently wrote, Goldstone's report "is far more accusatory of Israel, far less balanced in its criticism of Hamas, far less honest in its evaluation of the evidence, far less responsible in drawing its conclusion, far more biased against Israeli than Palestinian witnesses, and far more willing to draw adverse inferences of intentionality from Israeli conduct and statements than from comparable Palestinian conduct and statements."

http://www.goldstonereport.org/pro-and-con/critics/517-alan-dershowitz-the-case-against-the-goldstone-report-a-study-in-evidentiary-bias-270110

Goldstone's report is awful, in part, due to "1) its failure to investigate seriously the problem of Hamas embedding its war effort in the midst of civilians in order to draw Israeli fire and then accuse Israel of war crimes; 2) its astonishing credulity concerning all Palestinian claims, contrasted with a corresponding skepticism of all Israeli claims; 3) its harsh judgments on Israelis for war crimes (i.e., deliberate targeting of civilians), contrasted with its resolute agnosticism concerning Hamas intentions. The result is that Goldstone actually participates in Hamas' strategy and encourages the sacrificing of their own civilians."

http://www.gloria-center.org/meria/2009/12/landes1.html

Just as Goldstone is begrudgingly "critical" of Hamas, so are you. To say that Goldstone is equally critical of both Hamas and Israel is a sick joke and disingenuous to the extreme.

So to get back on topic, I fail to see what is so pro-peace, pro-Human rights, leftwing, progressive, liberal....about such a reluctance to hold Hamas accountable for what they have done and what they are being allowed to get away with (especially WRT their own Gazan victims who suffer most of all due to this enabling).
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