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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 08:27 PM
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100. The "study" is so debunked, even MAIG and Brady
don't cite it any longer. You do realize that there are volumes of studies published in NEJM which are later determined to be fallacious, no?

* "In homes with guns, the homicide of a household member is almost 3 times more likely to occur than in homes without guns."<12> <13>



* Reasons for elimination: This statistic is based on a three-county study comparing households in which a homicide occurred to demographically similar households in which a homicide did not occur. After controlling for several variables, the study found that gun ownership was associated with a 2.7 times increase in the odds of homicide.<14> This study does not meet Just Facts' Standards of Credibility because:



1) The study blurs cause and effect. As explained in a comprehensive analysis of firearm research conducted by the National Research Council, gun control studies such as this (known as "case-control" studies) "fail to address the primary inferential problems that arise because ownership is not a random decision. ... Homicide victims may possess firearms precisely because they are likely to be victimized."<15>



2) The study's results are highly sensitive to uncertainties in the underlying data. For example, minor variations in firearm ownership rates (which are determined by interview and are thus dependent upon interviewees' honesty) can negate the results.<16> <17>



3) The results are arrived at by subjecting the raw data to statistical analyses instead of letting the data speak for itself. (For reference, the raw data of this study shows that households in which a homicide occurred had a firearm ownership rate of 45% as compared to 36% for non-homicide households. Also, households in which a homicide occurred were twice as likely have a household member who was previously arrested (53% vs. 23%), five times more likely to have a household member who used illicit drugs (31% vs. 6%), and five times more likely to have a household member who was previously hit or hurt during a fight in the home (32% vs. 6%).<18>)


http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.fourexamples.asp#times
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