Reply #51: wtf? (edited)

[iverglas]

I'm sorry, I am just unable to follow the twisty turns of your thought processes.

Murder is not the same as duty to retreat, so for me to call that over generalization absurd, it would be an understatement.

What can you possibly be talking about??

Remember Ian Thompson? You said he had a duty to retreat. You were appalled that he used one of his revolvers to defend his house. The Crown prosecutor made public statements to the effect he was taking a stand against vigilantism. That is duty to retreat in practice.

No, I have no idea what that's about. A search for

site:www.democraticunderground.com "ian thompson" iverglas

produces zero results.

As for the rest, I don't give a shit what a couple of newspaper writers bitch about.

Yes, I know this. You don't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks about you. The rest of the world is well aware of this. It's one of the things that endears the people of the USofA to the rest of the world, doncha know.

We do the same shake our heads about Canadians clubbing baby seals, and it being illegal to video the commercial slaughter.

Christ you guys are weird. This "baby seals" thing. You just don't hesitate to display your ignorance at all, do you?

Seen any videos of cattle being slaughtered lately? Want to explain the differences between the two phenomena to me?



edit -- Thomson, no "p". The gun-happy guy in Welland. The only update on the story I find is from a complete piece of right-wing shit writing in the National Post ... taken here from the Edmonton Journal:

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/Right+self+defence+under+assault/5420519/story.html?cid=megadrop_story

Eventually, charges against Thomson were dropped, but not until after much public pressure had been brought on prosecutors. Without public outrage, it is unlikely the Crown would have decided on its own to leave Thomson alone.

"Public outrage" means the pressure brought to bear by a small segment of the public, composed pretty much entirely of far right-wing Conservative Party voters. Sometimes the Crown just realizes that it won't get a conviction, even if the reasons stink.

In that same opinion piece, the same piece of right-wing shit says:

In 1999, Martin shot two burglars who had broken into his remote Norfolk farm in the middle of the night. He killed one and injured the other.

Despite the fact Martin was afraid for his life and police were more than half an hour way, he was the one officers charged when they finally arrived at his home.

In the end, Martin spent more time in prison than his surviving attacker.

Presumably he gets paid to lie. He obviously isn't paid to know what he's talking about and tell the truth about it. You'll remember Tony Martin. The guy who shot a fleeing teenaged burglar ("attacker"? no) in the back, the guy who was a well-known bigot who had talked about killing gypsies, the guy who was under no threat and at risk of no harm from the fleeing teenager whatsoever.

It's sad when a movement's heroes are insane violent racists, isn't it?

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/lorne-gunter.html

"A former managing editor of the now defunct Alberta Report, ..."

You undoubtedly don't know what Alberta Report (and its sister publications) were/are. Imagine if Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter got together and published a magazine ...

"He is currently the editorial director of the Canadian Centre for Libertarian Studies, a member of the editorial board of conservativeforum.org and the incoming president of Civitas - a society for conservative and libertarian academics, think-tankers, lobbyists and journalists."

Yes, these be the standard-bearers for "self-defence". Sad to be you guys, isn't it?