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Sun Aug-29-10 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #30 |
| 34. In TX, it's 0.2612% - less than 1% |
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160 convictions of CHL holders out of 61,260 convictions by non-CHL holders (2007). http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_recor... |
| -Update on LVPD Costco Shooting |
oneshooter |
Aug-29-10 07:59 PM |
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And |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 08:02 PM |
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Your bias is showing thru |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 08:08 PM |
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you |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 08:12 PM |
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So whats the % of CHL holders who commit crimes |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 08:16 PM |
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so tell me this |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 08:22 PM |
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Never said you were a coward |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 08:29 PM |
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Do you carry |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 08:38 PM |
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I carry because the state I live in says I can if i go thru |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 09:05 PM |
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And I say |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:03 PM |
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I really don't care what you think or say |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:09 PM |
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Thanks |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:11 PM |
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You have every right to believe that those with carry permits live in fear ... |
spin |
Aug-30-10 12:10 AM |
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Thank you sigmund fucking freud. |
Pavulon |
Aug-29-10 09:14 PM |
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Incidents often happen in the parking lots of stores ... |
spin |
Aug-30-10 12:52 AM |
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If they aren't drinking, what difference does it make if they sit at that bar armed? |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-30-10 01:19 AM |
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I'm perfectly fine with somone being armed in a bar PROVIDED they aren't drinking |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 05:59 AM |
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interesting |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 08:49 PM |
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I remember seeing it some where |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 09:08 PM |
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you just completely |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:02 PM |
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If the 1% number is false, prove it. Show us how all those other threads are wrong |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 10:10 PM |
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How the hell would I know if he had a CHL? |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:12 PM |
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then |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:14 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:15 PM |
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you cited |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:16 PM |
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I really don't care |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:21 PM |
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Speaking of citing sources, still waiting on the proof for this one |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-30-10 07:44 PM |
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Read Post #21 |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:17 PM |
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So how can you say |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:14 PM |
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you do know there |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:15 PM |
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So now you're asserting that CHL holders in Texas and Florida.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-29-10 10:25 PM |
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Oh man |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:29 PM |
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Even if you hung *all* the shootings mentioned on FL and TX permit holders |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 10:25 PM |
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Florida does release data on citizens with a concealed weapons permit ... |
spin |
Aug-30-10 12:23 AM |
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I've noticed many of those articles list a LICENSE. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-30-10 01:20 AM |
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"Can't possibly be true" Please demonstrate why these are not true |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 09:36 PM |
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Jeeez |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 10:04 PM |
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so now |
MichaelHarris |
Aug-29-10 10:07 PM |
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In TX, it's 0.2612% - less than 1% |
X_Digger |
Aug-29-10 10:11 PM |
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In fairness |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-30-10 01:23 AM |
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Wait a minute, |
pipoman |
Aug-29-10 10:34 PM |
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Here are two states.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-29-10 09:39 PM |
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BTW |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 09:11 PM |
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Police check, silly. |
X_Digger |
Aug-29-10 09:35 PM |
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That is an easy one. |
GreenStormCloud |
Aug-30-10 04:57 PM |
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I'm a CCW holder and |
safeinOhio |
Aug-29-10 09:17 PM |
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Good for you. |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 09:22 PM |
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Actually I hold CHLs in 2 states |
safeinOhio |
Aug-29-10 09:51 PM |
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And I wonder why you don't mind your own |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 09:56 PM |
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Aug-29-10 11:05 PM |
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And I wonder why you don' |
DongHa69 |
Aug-29-10 09:57 PM |
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? |
safeinOhio |
Aug-29-10 11:13 PM |
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What are you? |
DongHa69 |
Aug-30-10 12:33 AM |
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Psychological projection |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 08:56 AM |
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It's very telling on who is the one having posts deleted for rules violation |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-30-10 05:41 PM |
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So *your* guns are fine, it's those *other peoples' guns* we should worry about. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 10:15 PM |
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Yeah, it works out that way a lot doesn't it. |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-30-10 05:43 PM |
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IOW: "*My* guns are fine, it's those *other* peoples' guns you have to worry about." |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 08:45 PM |
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You seem to be ignoring the two mentioned in the other thread. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 09:06 PM |
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What , 6 million holders |
safeinOhio |
Aug-29-10 09:23 PM |
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These cases were claimed *not to exist*, remember? CHL holders were 'selfish'. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 09:27 PM |
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Are mass shootings an everyday occurence these days? |
X_Digger |
Aug-29-10 09:57 PM |
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Yes, multiple homicides |
safeinOhio |
Aug-29-10 11:10 PM |
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And the news is a reliable statistical source, how? |
X_Digger |
Aug-29-10 11:15 PM |
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I took Social Science statistics, |
safeinOhio |
Aug-29-10 11:24 PM |
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Ask for a refund on your tuition |
Euromutt |
Aug-30-10 03:35 AM |
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Did you pass? |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 07:57 AM |
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Got an A |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 08:48 AM |
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It's raw data. I don't think you actually understand.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 09:05 AM |
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validating the methodology is |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 09:45 AM |
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Just a question |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 09:57 AM |
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background checks on all |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 11:39 AM |
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How would a background check on all prevent a bad guy from getting an illegal weapon illegally? |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 12:28 PM |
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Pretty simple |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 12:41 PM |
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Haven't you also pushed for the registration of handguns? n/t |
oneshooter |
Aug-30-10 01:45 PM |
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whoop de -do! |
one-eyed fat man |
Aug-30-10 01:49 PM |
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looks like a one-eyed straw man |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 03:50 PM |
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Sure. And bad guys ALWAYS try to persue legal means to acquire a firearm |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 03:57 PM |
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Have you ever thought that the reason they |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 08:03 PM |
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Big hassle????? |
one-eyed fat man |
Aug-30-10 09:41 PM |
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Then what the hell's the point? |
one-eyed fat man |
Aug-30-10 06:42 PM |
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You didn't answer. How will you keep bad guys from illegally obtaining illegal weapons? |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 02:45 PM |
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same way the current laws work |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 03:57 PM |
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self-delete |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 04:11 PM |
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Question asked in post 94. Third request. How would you keep bad guys from illegally purchasing |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 05:04 PM |
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My answer for the third time |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 07:57 PM |
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Self-delete |
shadowrider |
Aug-31-10 05:26 AM |
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I understand that but you're still not answering the question posed in #94 |
shadowrider |
Aug-31-10 05:47 AM |
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No you do not have it. |
safeinOhio |
Aug-31-10 02:02 PM |
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Supply, legal or illegal, will catch up to demand, legal or illegal n/t |
shadowrider |
Aug-31-10 03:35 PM |
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Please explain why |
safeinOhio |
Sep-01-10 10:04 PM |
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Because full autos are really not in demand. |
Glassunion |
Sep-01-10 10:18 PM |
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Both of your points support |
safeinOhio |
Sep-02-10 07:14 AM |
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It wouldn't be easy, cheap, or effective- and here's why. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-02-10 11:48 AM |
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I do advocate for stricter enforcement |
safeinOhio |
Sep-02-10 03:26 PM |
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Stricter enforcement and registration of handguns? n/t |
oneshooter |
Sep-02-10 04:02 PM |
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I'd have no problem with either. |
safeinOhio |
Sep-02-10 05:11 PM |
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I'm also a legal gun owner. I do however have issues with registration. |
Glassunion |
Sep-02-10 05:59 PM |
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At least we now know your |
safeinOhio |
Sep-02-10 10:05 PM |
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And what would that be, in your summation? |
Glassunion |
Sep-02-10 10:29 PM |
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But, your points also support his of supply and demand. |
Glassunion |
Sep-02-10 01:23 PM |
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Move the goalposts much? |
shadowrider |
Sep-02-10 05:21 AM |
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No, I'm talking about your |
safeinOhio |
Sep-02-10 07:00 AM |
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Here's a supply/demand theory for you |
shadowrider |
Sep-02-10 03:05 PM |
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Who is talking about prohibition? |
safeinOhio |
Sep-02-10 05:09 PM |
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We're talking supply/demand, legal or illegal. Booze or guns, the demand will be met n/t |
shadowrider |
Sep-02-10 05:35 PM |
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What happened to them? |
one-eyed fat man |
Aug-30-10 06:49 PM |
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That happened to me once |
USNEO |
Aug-30-10 07:07 PM |
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When I saw it |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 07:52 PM |
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Yes, it is against the law, regardless of your cognizance. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 08:08 PM |
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Try once more |
one-eyed fat man |
Aug-30-10 08:56 PM |
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I'd be all for |
safeinOhio |
Aug-31-10 07:09 AM |
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Do you see the quandry now? |
one-eyed fat man |
Aug-31-10 07:24 AM |
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Yet, with a Texas CHL there is no call. n/t |
oneshooter |
Aug-30-10 08:58 PM |
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How would that work? |
beevul |
Aug-30-10 08:49 PM |
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You have provided no critique of the methodology.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 10:06 AM |
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Shhhhhhh, You are introducing fact to an emotion based argument. n/t |
shadowrider |
Aug-30-10 10:11 AM |
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On one hand and on the other |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 11:49 AM |
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Without evidence of malfeasance.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 12:40 PM |
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My only basis is |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 12:45 PM |
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That's pretty weak sauce, then. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 12:58 PM |
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I don't think that murder is |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 01:06 PM |
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Yet no political opponent has exposed this vast conspiracy? |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 01:14 PM |
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You basis is pretty weak. "gunz=less crime" is something of a straw man... |
SteveM |
Aug-30-10 02:09 PM |
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And no, the plural of anecdote is not 'data'. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 09:08 AM |
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and trends do not |
safeinOhio |
Aug-30-10 09:49 AM |
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That's usually my line. |
X_Digger |
Aug-30-10 10:14 AM |
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"Multiple homicide" and "mass shooting" are not synonymous terms. |
benEzra |
Aug-30-10 12:07 AM |
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Do you turn a blind eye now to all the stories posted in the gun forum that "some" call "gun porn"? |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-29-10 11:19 PM |
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No, if you make a claim YOU'LL "do the leg work" to prove it. That's how it works |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-29-10 11:21 PM |
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Damn, Hoopla, you had to bring up Basic Speech and Debate 201. |
SteveM |
Aug-30-10 02:11 PM |
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How many times do you have to be shown? |
cleanhippie |
Aug-30-10 02:24 AM |
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There have been a few where a CCW stopped a mass-shooting. |
Glassunion |
Aug-30-10 10:33 AM |
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I await your explanation on why shooting someone on the ground five times in the back is justifiable |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-29-10 08:43 PM |
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I'm waiting for that one as well. |
benEzra |
Aug-30-10 12:04 AM |
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Like I said earlier to MH |
DongHa69 |
Aug-30-10 12:36 AM |
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Why should we add it to the list of CCW allegedly "snapping? |
Euromutt |
Aug-30-10 01:32 AM |
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Yes I will. And if the cops are found guilty, will you apologize in this forum? n/t |
oneshooter |
Sep-02-10 02:21 PM |
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More info |
one-eyed fat man |
Sep-08-10 01:38 AM |
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Looks like a massive attempt at CYA |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-08-10 02:29 AM |
#139 |
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