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29. First thing we agree on "then we have a HUGE problem with firearm availability to criminals."
We absolutely do.

Your "solutions" though seem to be to take guns away from law abiding and somehow that will make crime go away.

Estimates on number of street guns run from 40 million to 120 million.

Police remove about 300K or so per year.


Assuming you completely banned all firearms (violation of 2nd.
Then removed every single legal firearm (which is impossible and likely would require a violation of the 4th and 5th).
Now finally lets make another crazy assumption that EVERY SINGLE law abiding gun owner hands over their guns.

This is about best case impossible scenario for gun control.
There would still be 40-120 million street guns in the hands of criminals.

Even if the Police cracked down and began removing 2 million guns from circulation a year (a 1000% increase over current efforts) it would take decades to dry up the supply.
All that time criminals would know civilians have no method to defend themselves.

Also currently thousands of metric tons of drugs flow across our borders. There is very little smuggling of guns INTO the country because there currently is a large supply.

If guns were more valuable due to scarcity. I am sure criminals could easily smuggle a million or so guns into the country if the economics makes sense or they simply would build them here (marijuana farms, meth labs).

So 40-120 million guns
-2 million per year (police removal)
+1 million per year (smuggling, illegal production)

So in about 40-120 years the gun supply should be exhausted.

Removing guns from law abiding citizens doesn't work. You have to suspend all disbelief to think it somehow does.

Violent Crime rate in UK is higher than before they banned guns and now HIGHER than the US.
Criminals armed with gun or knife, or bat are fairly certain they have the citizen outmatched.

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