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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #16
17. So you have an opinion about civil rights and no opinion on the 2nd Amd. That's unusual because the
Second Amendment protects a civil right, the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.

If someone claims to support civil rights and opposes RKBA, then that is a hypocritical position.

Have a wonderful day, :hi:
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  -Cleaning up the gungeon. Do we care? BigBluenoser  Apr-25-09 07:46 AM   #0 
  - I resolve...  Joe Steel   Apr-25-09 07:54 AM   #1 
  - I think you are wrong here  rl6214   Apr-25-09 10:52 AM   #8 
  - I am not wrong.  Joe Steel   Apr-25-09 04:13 PM   #25 
     - Is the Author of Post #1  DrCory   Apr-25-09 04:48 PM   #28 
     - Quit bothering Joe with the facts.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Apr-25-09 06:15 PM   #33 
     - a logical argument does not equal "verbal abuse"  Howzit   Apr-25-09 04:56 PM   #29 
     - How is "gun lover" any less pejorative than "abortion lover" would be for someone who is pro-choice?  benEzra   Apr-26-09 01:06 PM   #52 
     - What would you prefer?  Joe Steel   Apr-26-09 06:06 PM   #63 
        - Gun enthusiast, gun rights advocate, pro-gun would all be neutral.  benEzra   Apr-26-09 08:37 PM   #64 
        - Heller notwithstanding...  Joe Steel   Apr-27-09 06:59 AM   #65 
           - Is that really the type of country you'd want to live in?  benEzra   Apr-27-09 07:03 AM   #66 
              - Yes.  Joe Steel   Apr-27-09 07:34 AM   #67 
                 - If You Honestly Advocate...  DrCory   Apr-27-09 08:05 AM   #69 
                 - Except not even Western Europe does those things.  benEzra   Apr-27-09 08:08 AM   #70 
        - Feel free to call me a gun collector  slackmaster   Apr-27-09 09:00 AM   #72 
     - Dead wrong. Again.  SteveM   Apr-29-09 11:28 AM   #73 
  - You're one of the worst offenders in recent Gungeon history, Joe  slackmaster   Apr-27-09 09:00 AM   #71 
  - Here you go.  Tim01   Apr-25-09 08:14 AM   #2 
  - I'm numb to it anymore  X_Digger   Apr-25-09 08:59 AM   #3 
  - I don't care. It's in the gungeon. So what?  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 09:02 AM   #4 
  - See, there ya go  rl6214   Apr-25-09 10:54 AM   #9 
  - (sigh) well, there YOU go...  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 11:23 AM   #11 
     - You are being uncivil by implying that it is an "asylum"  Caliman73   Apr-25-09 04:48 PM   #27 
        - Well, I think the way these discussions often play out, it can be full of lots  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 05:28 PM   #31 
           - If you would have resonded as in your above post in the first place  Caliman73   Apr-25-09 06:05 PM   #32 
              - Look, that place really jarred me! I am being honest with you.  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 06:48 PM   #34 
                 - I understand what you are saying...  Caliman73   Apr-25-09 07:29 PM   #35 
                 - My opinion is that the insults begin when logic prevails  pipoman   Apr-25-09 08:40 PM   #36 
                 - You assume that I was talking only about gun owners and I wasn't.  CTyankee   Apr-26-09 11:31 AM   #46 
                    - Yet you have an opinion about civil rights but don't have an opinion about the 2nd. That's odd  jody   Apr-26-09 12:12 PM   #47 
                    - I would be interested in seeing a strong rational debate on this issue.  CTyankee   Apr-26-09 12:39 PM   #48 
                       - We had many threads on D.C. v. Heller leading up to SCOTUS' decision on 26 June 2008 and after.  jody   Apr-26-09 01:06 PM   #51 
                          - The selection from the decision that you quoted is interesting, if just partial.  CTyankee   Apr-26-09 02:45 PM   #56 
                             - Have a good day. At least you understand that the courts recognize RKBA is a civil right. You might  jody   Apr-26-09 02:54 PM   #58 
                    - I made no such assumption  Caliman73   Apr-26-09 02:43 PM   #55 
                 - Part of that is by design.  beevul   Apr-26-09 02:49 PM   #57 
                    - Yes, and we probably all have issues where we are more invested  CTyankee   Apr-26-09 03:20 PM   #59 
                    - Well said, CTyankee  beevul   Apr-26-09 03:53 PM   #60 
                       - And in my case, I truly do not feel I have as much of a knowledge base,  CTyankee   Apr-26-09 04:17 PM   #61 
                          - I know exactly what you speak of.  beevul   Apr-26-09 05:27 PM   #62 
                    - Precisely put...  SteveM   Apr-29-09 11:39 AM   #74 
                       - In the beginning, some of the anti-RKBA crowd openly bragged in their posts about how many pro-RKBA  jody   Apr-30-09 02:51 PM   #78 
  - Your absence from DU's Guns forum is your choice but I hope you are not ignorant about the 2nd Amd.  jody   Apr-25-09 11:05 AM   #10 
     - I have no opinion on gun laws or the 2nd amendment. nt  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 11:24 AM   #12 
     - Do you have an opinion on civil rights? n/t  jody   Apr-25-09 11:26 AM   #13 
        - yes. nt  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 11:29 AM   #14 
           - Do you support civil rights? n/t  jody   Apr-25-09 11:30 AM   #15 
              - Sorry, it is not my policy to debate this issue. I suggest you drop it, as far as I'm concerned.  CTyankee   Apr-25-09 11:34 AM   #16 
                 - So you have an opinion about civil rights and no opinion on the 2nd Amd. That's unusual because the  jody   Apr-25-09 11:38 AM   #17 
     - I am well-versed in the Second Amendment...  Joe Steel   Apr-25-09 04:11 PM   #24 
        - Suggest you read SCOTUS on D.C. v. Heller because from your other posts "you haven't the first idea  jody   Apr-25-09 04:40 PM   #26 
        - See what I mean...  virginia mountainman   Apr-25-09 10:56 PM   #38 
        - OK, once again, let's hear your "well-versed" knowledge (nt)  SteveM   Apr-29-09 11:41 AM   #75 
  - A good rule of thumb  rrneck   Apr-25-09 10:17 AM   #5 
  - I no longer care since we pro-RKBA Dems have received the brunt of such attacks and endured.  jody   Apr-25-09 10:34 AM   #6 
  - If the people we elect are so ignorant that they can't understand...  spin   Apr-26-09 12:11 AM   #41 
     - Agree, We the People particularly blue&grey collar workers who sweat for our daily bread allow  jody   Apr-26-09 12:28 AM   #42 
     - Cases in point.....  virginia mountainman   Apr-26-09 12:46 AM   #43 
        - Three great videos well worth watching...thanks.(n/t)  spin   Apr-26-09 01:08 PM   #53 
           - Yea, but will the people that need to see them the most, watch?  virginia mountainman   Apr-26-09 01:33 PM   #54 
  - The language the anti-gun folks use convinces me...  spin   Apr-25-09 10:35 AM   #7 
  - Free Speech, Baby!  jeepnstein   Apr-25-09 11:40 AM   #18 
  - Almost all of the time,  Tim01   Apr-25-09 12:54 PM   #22 
  - forcing people to be civil might force them to examine their beliefes  sodom   Apr-25-09 12:02 PM   #19 
  - I don't think that will happen  Caliman73   Apr-26-09 12:52 AM   #44 
  - I am frustrated....I am angry.....I am gobsmacked by the amount of dummassery  virginia mountainman   Apr-25-09 12:41 PM   #20 
  - If I still lived in VA, I'd buy you a beverage of your choice.  X_Digger   Apr-25-09 12:53 PM   #21 
  - That is a bright spot...  virginia mountainman   Apr-26-09 01:00 PM   #49 
     - Our backdoor neighbor in G'vill, FL brewed stump rum within sight of the stadium (nt)  SteveM   Apr-29-09 12:38 PM   #76 
  - Relax, and ignore the trolls.  AtheistCrusader   Apr-26-09 11:23 AM   #45 
     - Good advise.....I may just take a breather....  virginia mountainman   Apr-26-09 01:03 PM   #50 
  - Interesting stuff...  BigBluenoser   Apr-25-09 03:32 PM   #23 
  - I would prefer to engage in honest discussions about the issues.  Caliman73   Apr-25-09 04:59 PM   #30 
  - Our problem in this country is that...  spin   Apr-25-09 11:58 PM   #40 
  - I've been making a serious effort to avoid name calling, even in retaliation.  aikoaiko   Apr-25-09 09:19 PM   #37 
  - The "penis=guns" insults are at the very least lame...  spin   Apr-25-09 11:48 PM   #39 
  - The best I can manage is to endeavor to respond to the insults with logical arguments  slackmaster   Apr-27-09 07:58 AM   #68 
  - As a concerned firearms owner, I come here primarily for information.  frebrd   Apr-30-09 12:46 PM   #77 
 

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