Reply #101: Well, that's a big fat DUH!!!!

[krispos42]

Most murderers are men. Two-thirds of all murders are done with guns. So then it's pretty damn likely that women are being killed by men with guns. It's also pretty damn likely that MEN are being killed by men with guns as well!

The chart is interesting...



After 9/11, many states allowed more concealed-carry permits to be issued, or liberalized the current ones. Currently, only two states, Illinois and Wisconsin, have totally outlawed civilian carry.

And, look, the number of civilian justifiable homicides went up sharply while criminal homicides remained flat! And when the oh-so-effective 1993 AWB expired, they went back down, almost as if the criminals began to fear the armed citizenry again...

Remember that the rate of grabbing a gun for self-defense compared to the rate of killing somebody in self-defense runs between 5,700:1 to 11,000:1. In other words, for every felon killed by an armed citizen, between 5,700 and 11,000 crimes were prevented by an armed citizen who did not have to kill anybody.

The reason the number is so broad is that solid numbers on how often a person uses (not neccessarily shoots, just uses) a gun in self-defense are not available because 90% of the cases go unreported.