Reply #7: until we come to grips with overpopulation

[blindpig]

all else is mere tinkering. But nobody will talk about it: on the right the libertarians and christofascist find such talk abhorrent, on the left such talk raises human rights concerns and accusations of racism. So nothing gets done and things just get worse. I've just about abandoned all hope that we might deal with this in a moral, proactive manner, I guess we'll just react like the stupid monkeys we apparently are when the shitstorm arrives. Then we'll see some real authoritarianism as humankind scrambles to deal with it much too late.

There are some that say that overpopulation is no big deal. That human ingenuity, better resource exploitation and allocation will allow humankind to live with a population of 12, 15 billion. I just wonder what kind of lives those would be. With all potential arable land in use, all trees farmed, all seafood aqua cultured because the oceans are poisoned and barren, what will be left of the habitats that were our homes for hundreds of thousands of years? Or the myriad species that we shared the earth with? Not the kind of place where I'd want to live. While I believe collapse the more likely scenario either makes me sad and glad I won't be around to see it.