Reply #10: Yes I really believe that..

[The Croquist]

Without satellite data there is no accurate temperate data for the planet. The surface record of the planet is not accurate today let alone 40 years ago.

You can call it absurd all you want but why don't you tell me how they measured the temperature at:
The North Pole 40 years ago.
In Antarctica 40 years ago.
The Atlantic, Indian and Pacific oceans 40 years ago.

The United States has over 1,000 surface stations but more then half of them fail to meet NOAA's guidelines and are considered to have an error factor of +/- 2 degrees C. When you are arguing about tenths of a degree I don't see how an error factor of +/- 2 degrees can be considered acceptable. That is the surface stations in the United States today.

Nobody knows what they looked like 40 years ago or what most of the worlds stations look like today let alone 40 years ago. That is the problem.

Here is a picture of the surface station run by the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona, Tucson. They put it in a parking lot on top of asphalt. This station has been in operation since 1867. I doubt it was on asphalt back then. This is what is refereed to as a class 5 site (error factor of +/- 5 degrees). You would think that the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona would have known better.

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=12970&g2_imageViewsIndex=3

PS: Yes it is a skeptic site.