Reply #24: WAIT A &^%*&%*in second

[Mass_Liberal]

are you saying that dems should become social conservatives, to court hispanics? we need to change the voters to fit us, not the other way around. And by the way, if signing civil unions bill loses the black vote, that the problem is the voter's ideology, not Dean's. That said, voters can be swung. If we move the center to the left, as opposed to moving ourselves to the center, more voters will be social liberals.