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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 05:06 PM
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91. Yes, it is a BFD. Pity you don't see that.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 05:07 PM by Mairead
All we know from that article is that he and his friend died. They might have died by accident--it's not Park Avenue over there even today. They might have been killed by accident. They might have been killed intentionally. Or they might have died separately, in different ways. We don't know. It's Really Important that we don't know. That ignorance is, yes, a genuine Big Fscking Deal. So your flat declaration was 100% unsupported, and your 'probably' is 90% unsupported. We don't know what the probability is, and that Dr Dean thinks it's high cuts no ice, because he doesn't know either. Of course 'murdered by the Commies' sounds much more dramatic and poignant (those rotten Commies!) than 'became sick and died', 'wasn't watching where he was going, fell into a river, and drowned', 'was bitten by a poisonous snake and died', 'was blown up by a Green Beret booby trap', 'insulted a local woman and was killed by her outraged relatives' or something else, but the fact of the matter is that we don't know anything more than that he died. The article doesn't even say he was in Commie custody at the time of his death (though it seems to imply he wasn't).

So please, don't try to con us or guilt-trip us or anything else--you haven't the wherewithal.

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  -Feeling Deans Pain killbotfactory  Jul-13-03 07:54 AM   #0 
  - when I read that tears come to my eyes too  CMT   Jul-13-03 03:13 AM   #1 
  - My reaction comes when I read something like this  Mairead   Jul-14-03 06:56 AM   #73 
  - Thats so sad about his brother  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 03:18 AM   #2 
  - a little balance  Mairead   Jul-13-03 03:23 AM   #3 
  - I forgot rich people are incapable of experiencing emotional pain.  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 03:27 AM   #4 
  - They tend to feel their own pain  Mairead   Jul-13-03 04:37 AM   #11 
  - Yeah, he became a doctor because he only cares about himself...  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 04:42 AM   #12 
  - I've met a number of physicians  Mairead   Jul-13-03 05:15 AM   #13 
  - No, please spare me your demonization of a decent man...  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 05:16 AM   #14 
     - To channel Harry Truman for a moment  Mairead   Jul-13-03 06:08 AM   #16 
        - First off...  thom1102   Jul-13-03 07:48 AM   #20 
        - I want to apologize to the responsible Kucinich supporters  thom1102   Jul-13-03 07:52 AM   #22 
        - Thom, his brother is not more important than anyone else's  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:05 AM   #25 
        - And people who know about grief don't mock  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:18 AM   #28 
           - "you should be ashamed that you would stoop so low! "  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:47 AM   #32 
              - I have done plenty of research on the Middle East  thom1102   Jul-13-03 09:07 AM   #34 
                 - Tell us what 'defence' cuts Dennis would make  Mairead   Jul-13-03 09:13 AM   #36 
                    - I don't have a link, but I have heard him say  thom1102   Jul-13-03 09:46 AM   #37 
                       - I don't think that's correct  JackieO   Jul-13-03 10:02 AM   #39 
                          - I tried to verify on his website,  thom1102   Jul-13-03 10:04 AM   #40 
                             - So much for your assertion (nt)  Mairead   Jul-14-03 05:10 AM   #72 
        - I like Kucinich  gottaB   Jul-13-03 08:09 AM   #26 
        - Frankly the reaction of Dean supporters  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:41 AM   #48 
           - You don't know me from Adam!  thom1102   Jul-13-03 12:16 PM   #56 
           - Just Dean huh?  Nazgul35   Jul-13-03 12:25 PM   #57 
              - I'll do just that  repeater138   Jul-13-03 01:45 PM   #59 
                 - Then deal with the substance of the argument  thom1102   Jul-13-03 02:04 PM   #60 
                    - Kucinich is electable  repeater138   Jul-13-03 02:28 PM   #61 
                       - First of all...  thom1102   Jul-13-03 03:00 PM   #62 
                          - :smoke:  repeater138   Jul-13-03 06:30 PM   #67 
                             - Not elitism  thom1102   Jul-14-03 07:38 AM   #74 
                                - I disagree  repeater138   Jul-14-03 01:42 PM   #83 
                                   - And I disagree with you.  thom1102   Jul-14-03 02:52 PM   #85 
        - Check your facts  Mairead   Jul-13-03 07:57 AM   #23 
           - You have some real anger issues  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:03 AM   #24 
              - Do try to build better strawmen.  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:12 AM   #27 
                 - You know what?  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:30 AM   #30 
                    - Who says we wont regain congress  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 11:25 AM   #44 
                    - Of Course I hope we gain back Congress.  thom1102   Jul-13-03 11:54 AM   #50 
                    - Keep telling yourself that  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:49 AM   #49 
                       - I have nothing but confidence in Dean.  thom1102   Jul-13-03 12:08 PM   #54 
        - Your opinion is not fact  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 11:56 AM   #52 
        - Is mpp lying too?  dsc   Jul-13-03 12:59 PM   #58 
        - No, they're stupid  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:36 AM   #69 
           - But that describes anyone whose opinion differs from yours...  thom1102   Jul-14-03 07:45 AM   #76 
              - It's not about whether it differs from mine  Mairead   Jul-14-03 12:09 PM   #78 
                 - Again, because it conflicts with what you deem to be  thom1102   Jul-14-03 02:54 PM   #86 
                    - What an idiotic thing to say  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:44 PM   #90 
        - You have the wrong impression  keek   Jul-13-03 03:26 PM   #63 
  - What you said.  Jim Sagle   Jul-13-03 07:14 AM   #18 
  - 'Dr. Dean is like that'. Does Judith know of this relationship you  polpilot   Jul-13-03 05:17 AM   #15 
     - My info comes from his policies  Mairead   Jul-13-03 06:11 AM   #17 
        - Mairead. . . . . Dean doesn't care, they are not his family members  DeanandBushSuck   Jul-13-03 07:50 AM   #21 
  - Perhaps not, but...  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:38 AM   #47 
  - Thanks for the tell me, how was it that  sfecap   Jul-13-03 03:30 AM   #5 
  - and didnt he get a commendition a few years back from the city council  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 03:42 AM   #6 
  - Well, gee...* gave me a tax cut...doesn't mean anything.  sfecap   Jul-13-03 03:56 AM   #7 
     - Did I attack Dean no?  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 04:07 AM   #8 
        - I did it to illustrate a point...  sfecap   Jul-13-03 04:17 AM   #9 
           - Good glad I get you  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 04:22 AM   #10 
              - Describing Kucinich as Unelectable is not an attack  thom1102   Jul-13-03 07:34 AM   #19 
                 - "I can make an airtight argument"  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:18 AM   #29 
                 - I am doing a damn good job right here right now!  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:31 AM   #31 
                 - In your mind, kiddo, only in your mind (nt)  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:52 AM   #33 
                    - Dream on!  thom1102   Jul-13-03 09:10 AM   #35 
                 - Well, if you can do, than do it ...  thom1102   Jul-13-03 09:56 AM   #38 
                    - Thom, I was *quoting you*  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:44 AM   #71 
                       - Who the hell are you to tell me to get some perspective!!!  thom1102   Jul-14-03 07:41 AM   #75 
                 - everything Mairead's said about Dean is observation as well...  Desertrose   Jul-13-03 10:11 AM   #41 
                 - Not attacks?  thom1102   Jul-13-03 10:55 AM   #42 
                 - Stating an ignorant opinion is not the same as stating facts.  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 12:03 PM   #53 
                    - Thank you kilbotfactory for calling my opinion ignorant..  Desertrose   Jul-13-03 06:27 PM   #66 
                    - I was referring to Mairead  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 06:44 PM   #68 
                    - Murdered? Where do you get that information from? (nt)  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:38 AM   #70 
                       - The article that started this thread...  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 10:04 AM   #77 
                          - Quote where it says he was murdered, why don't you  Mairead   Jul-14-03 12:35 PM   #79 
                             - We think that the North Vietnamese basically ordered them killed,  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 12:51 PM   #80 
                                - Note the words 'speculate', 'died', and 'we think'. They're significant.  Mairead   Jul-14-03 01:21 PM   #81 
                                   - He was probably murdered.  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 01:25 PM   #82 
                                      - One of the markers of adulthood  Mairead   Jul-14-03 02:31 PM   #84 
                                         - I can't believe you are lecturing someone on semantics!!  thom1102   Jul-14-03 03:03 PM   #87 
                                         - I find it funny you would lecture me on making false statements  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 03:08 PM   #88 
                                            - Yes, it is a BFD. Pity you don't see that.  Mairead   Jul-14-03 05:06 PM   #91 
                                            - This is one of the most insane arguement I've been in...  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 08:28 PM   #92 
                 - how they say it is  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 11:17 AM   #43 
  - I'll tell you exactly what happened  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:54 AM   #51 
  - I suppose that would work for FDR too  keek   Jul-13-03 03:28 PM   #64 
  - Wow! If Kucinich's reaction...  Duder   Jul-13-03 11:30 AM   #45 
  - it wouldnt be  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 11:32 AM   #46 
     - I qualified by saying "some" supporters  Duder   Jul-13-03 12:12 PM   #55 
        - The story about DK and the flag  Desertrose   Jul-13-03 06:14 PM   #65 
  - I think this story shows why Dean won't use the military recklessly  Larkspur   Jul-14-03 03:50 PM   #89 

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