Mairead
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Mon Jul-14-03 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #88 |
| 91. Yes, it is a BFD. Pity you don't see that. |
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Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 05:07 PM by Mairead
All we know from that article is that he and his friend died. They might have died by accident--it's not Park Avenue over there even today. They might have been killed by accident. They might have been killed intentionally. Or they might have died separately, in different ways. We don't know. It's Really Important that we don't know. That ignorance is, yes, a genuine Big Fscking Deal. So your flat declaration was 100% unsupported, and your 'probably' is 90% unsupported. We don't know what the probability is, and that Dr Dean thinks it's high cuts no ice, because he doesn't know either. Of course 'murdered by the Commies' sounds much more dramatic and poignant (those rotten Commies!) than 'became sick and died', 'wasn't watching where he was going, fell into a river, and drowned', 'was bitten by a poisonous snake and died', 'was blown up by a Green Beret booby trap', 'insulted a local woman and was killed by her outraged relatives' or something else, but the fact of the matter is that we don't know anything more than that he died. The article doesn't even say he was in Commie custody at the time of his death (though it seems to imply he wasn't).
So please, don't try to con us or guilt-trip us or anything else--you haven't the wherewithal.
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| -Feeling Dean’s Pain |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 07:54 AM |
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when I read that tears come to my eyes too |
CMT |
Jul-13-03 03:13 AM |
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My reaction comes when I read something like this |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 06:56 AM |
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Thats so sad about his brother |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 03:18 AM |
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a little balance |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 03:23 AM |
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I forgot rich people are incapable of experiencing emotional pain. |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 03:27 AM |
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They tend to feel their own pain |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 04:37 AM |
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Yeah, he became a doctor because he only cares about himself... |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 04:42 AM |
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I've met a number of physicians |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 05:15 AM |
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No, please spare me your demonization of a decent man... |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 05:16 AM |
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To channel Harry Truman for a moment |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 06:08 AM |
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First off... |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 07:48 AM |
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I want to apologize to the responsible Kucinich supporters |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 07:52 AM |
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Thom, his brother is not more important than anyone else's |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 08:05 AM |
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And people who know about grief don't mock |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 08:18 AM |
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"you should be ashamed that you would stoop so low! " |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 08:47 AM |
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I have done plenty of research on the Middle East |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 09:07 AM |
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Tell us what 'defence' cuts Dennis would make |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 09:13 AM |
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I don't have a link, but I have heard him say |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 09:46 AM |
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I don't think that's correct |
JackieO |
Jul-13-03 10:02 AM |
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I tried to verify on his website, |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 10:04 AM |
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So much for your assertion (nt) |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 05:10 AM |
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I like Kucinich |
gottaB |
Jul-13-03 08:09 AM |
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Frankly the reaction of Dean supporters |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 11:41 AM |
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You don't know me from Adam! |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 12:16 PM |
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Just Dean huh? |
Nazgul35 |
Jul-13-03 12:25 PM |
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I'll do just that |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 01:45 PM |
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Then deal with the substance of the argument |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 02:04 PM |
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Kucinich is electable |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 02:28 PM |
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First of all... |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 03:00 PM |
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:smoke: |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 06:30 PM |
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Not elitism |
thom1102 |
Jul-14-03 07:38 AM |
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I disagree |
repeater138 |
Jul-14-03 01:42 PM |
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And I disagree with you. |
thom1102 |
Jul-14-03 02:52 PM |
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Check your facts |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 07:57 AM |
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You have some real anger issues |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 08:03 AM |
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Do try to build better strawmen. |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 08:12 AM |
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You know what? |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 08:30 AM |
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Who says we wont regain congress |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 11:25 AM |
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Of Course I hope we gain back Congress. |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 11:54 AM |
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Keep telling yourself that |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 11:49 AM |
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I have nothing but confidence in Dean. |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 12:08 PM |
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Your opinion is not fact |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 11:56 AM |
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Is mpp lying too? |
dsc |
Jul-13-03 12:59 PM |
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No, they're stupid |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 04:36 AM |
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But that describes anyone whose opinion differs from yours... |
thom1102 |
Jul-14-03 07:45 AM |
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It's not about whether it differs from mine |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 12:09 PM |
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Again, because it conflicts with what you deem to be |
thom1102 |
Jul-14-03 02:54 PM |
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What an idiotic thing to say |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 04:44 PM |
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You have the wrong impression |
keek |
Jul-13-03 03:26 PM |
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What you said. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-13-03 07:14 AM |
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'Dr. Dean is like that'. Does Judith know of this relationship you |
polpilot |
Jul-13-03 05:17 AM |
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My info comes from his policies |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 06:11 AM |
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Mairead. . . . . Dean doesn't care, they are not his family members |
DeanandBushSuck |
Jul-13-03 07:50 AM |
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Perhaps not, but... |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 11:38 AM |
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Thanks for the balance...so tell me, how was it that |
sfecap |
Jul-13-03 03:30 AM |
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and didnt he get a commendition a few years back from the city council |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 03:42 AM |
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Well, gee...* gave me a tax cut...doesn't mean anything. |
sfecap |
Jul-13-03 03:56 AM |
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Did I attack Dean no? |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 04:07 AM |
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I did it to illustrate a point... |
sfecap |
Jul-13-03 04:17 AM |
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Good glad I get you |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 04:22 AM |
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Describing Kucinich as Unelectable is not an attack |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 07:34 AM |
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"I can make an airtight argument" |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 08:18 AM |
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I am doing a damn good job right here right now! |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 08:31 AM |
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In your mind, kiddo, only in your mind (nt) |
Mairead |
Jul-13-03 08:52 AM |
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Dream on! |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 09:10 AM |
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Well, if you can do, than do it ... |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 09:56 AM |
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Thom, I was *quoting you* |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 04:44 AM |
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Who the hell are you to tell me to get some perspective!!! |
thom1102 |
Jul-14-03 07:41 AM |
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everything Mairead's said about Dean is observation as well... |
Desertrose |
Jul-13-03 10:11 AM |
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Not attacks? |
thom1102 |
Jul-13-03 10:55 AM |
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Stating an ignorant opinion is not the same as stating facts. |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 12:03 PM |
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Thank you kilbotfactory for calling my opinion ignorant.. |
Desertrose |
Jul-13-03 06:27 PM |
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I was referring to Mairead |
killbotfactory |
Jul-13-03 06:44 PM |
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Murdered? Where do you get that information from? (nt) |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 04:38 AM |
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The article that started this thread... |
killbotfactory |
Jul-14-03 10:04 AM |
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Quote where it says he was murdered, why don't you |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 12:35 PM |
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“We think that the North Vietnamese basically ordered them killed,” |
killbotfactory |
Jul-14-03 12:51 PM |
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Note the words 'speculate', 'died', and 'we think'. They're significant. |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 01:21 PM |
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He was probably murdered. |
killbotfactory |
Jul-14-03 01:25 PM |
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One of the markers of adulthood |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 02:31 PM |
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I can't believe you are lecturing someone on semantics!! |
thom1102 |
Jul-14-03 03:03 PM |
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I find it funny you would lecture me on making false statements |
killbotfactory |
Jul-14-03 03:08 PM |
#88 |
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Yes, it is a BFD. Pity you don't see that. |
Mairead |
Jul-14-03 05:06 PM |
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This is one of the most insane arguement I've been in... |
killbotfactory |
Jul-14-03 08:28 PM |
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how they say it is |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 11:17 AM |
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I'll tell you exactly what happened |
repeater138 |
Jul-13-03 11:54 AM |
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I suppose that would work for FDR too |
keek |
Jul-13-03 03:28 PM |
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Wow! If Kucinich's reaction... |
Duder |
Jul-13-03 11:30 AM |
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it wouldnt be |
JohnKleeb |
Jul-13-03 11:32 AM |
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I qualified by saying "some" supporters |
Duder |
Jul-13-03 12:12 PM |
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The story about DK and the flag |
Desertrose |
Jul-13-03 06:14 PM |
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I think this story shows why Dean won't use the military recklessly |
Larkspur |
Jul-14-03 03:50 PM |
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