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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 06:38 PM
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30. Something I agree with
"Someone recently posted (several times) that XTian rock is good and that it helps people find Christ. The idea that XTian rock is good is nothing more than a lie from Hell - pure and simple."

(the board's powers that be use the X form on the grounds that "There is no Christ in Rock")

Excepting the Fireblood Angel Band's awesome Day of the Trumpet, of course - damn, I love that piece. But it's not rock as such, so maybe it's allowed.
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  -"I was wondering, since i can read French, would it be okay to read the Bible in French?" Bluebear  May-29-07 05:46 PM   #0 
  - Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah  malaise   May-29-07 05:47 PM   #1 
  - Yep!  MonkeyFunk   May-29-07 05:48 PM   # 
  - wonder if they know that King James was gay? ya think? n/t  angstlessk   May-29-07 05:48 PM   #2 
  - And, apparently, very old since he was alive during the  Clark2008   May-29-07 05:50 PM   #7 
  - dumb. dumber. dumbest. Not sure how to say that in French.  redwitch   May-29-07 05:48 PM   #3 
  - Submit to FSTDT [end]  Bright Eyes   May-29-07 05:49 PM   #4 
  - I can't.  Bluebear   May-29-07 05:49 PM   #6 
  - Awesome site!  deucemagnet   May-30-07 03:43 PM   #131 
  - They'd probably be suspicious of the Greek version  Canuckistanian   May-29-07 05:49 PM   #5 
  - greek  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 10:58 PM   #49 
     - Well, um  Canuckistanian   May-29-07 11:19 PM   #59 
        - Dude, I'm using fundie logic  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 11:25 PM   #63 
           - Ok, gotcha  Canuckistanian   May-29-07 11:32 PM   #67 
  - KJV is a "prefect translation" eh?  Catch22Dem   May-29-07 05:51 PM   #8 
  - Looky!!! I fond ****12**** angels on this pinhead!!!  BlooInBloo   May-29-07 05:51 PM   #9 
  - You certainly do  spoony   May-29-07 05:51 PM   #10 
  - Are there substantive differences between Catholic and Protestant versions?  BlooInBloo   May-29-07 05:52 PM   #11 
  - The Catholic bible still includes some writings which the Protestants removed.  dicksteele   May-29-07 06:03 PM   #17 
  - the ironic bit about it all is...  Reverend_Smitty   May-29-07 05:53 PM   #12 
  - Yup, I studied Koines Greek, and you're correct  LostinVA   May-30-07 07:45 AM   #97 
  - As compared to what?  TrogL   May-30-07 01:54 PM   #122 
  - WTF is with Fundies and the KJV Bible?  Odin2005   May-29-07 05:55 PM   #13 
  - I think it's all the "thou's" and "thine's"....  progdonkey   May-29-07 06:47 PM   #34 
  - What is a KJV, KGB Bible?  lonestarnot   May-29-07 11:00 PM   #53 
  - Intellectual/Theological issues aside, the KJV is a TIMELESS MASTERPIECE of the Anglish Linguage.  dicksteele   May-30-07 02:18 AM   #83 
  - It doesn't make sense  China_cat   May-30-07 05:30 AM   #89 
  - Keeping people dependent on authority figures, I think...  benEzra   May-30-07 09:13 AM   #106 
  - Good crimony  shenmue   May-29-07 05:56 PM   #14 
  - Jesus hates the French for not joining us in Iraq. Of course it should only be read in English.  MidwestTransplant   May-29-07 05:59 PM   #15 
  - Jesus won't eat  zidzi   May-29-07 06:19 PM   #26 
     - Does that mean French Stewart is going to Hell?  primate1   May-30-07 02:59 AM   #84 
        - Yes ...  meegbear   May-30-07 11:14 AM   #114 
  - LOL - "Perfect Translation" is a bit of an oxymoron  gollygee   May-29-07 06:00 PM   #16 
  - No. French is a sin  dave_p   May-29-07 06:05 PM   #18 
  - No thinking and no dissent!  gollygee   May-29-07 06:06 PM   #19 
  - And no touching!  dave_p   May-29-07 06:10 PM   #23 
     - Oh no - none of that!  gollygee   May-29-07 06:13 PM   #24 
        - We can sit so long as there's a Bible  dave_p   May-29-07 06:45 PM   #31 
  - I've always been a mass debater  Canuckistanian   May-29-07 11:00 PM   #52 
     - Good one! Except you'll go blind, ya know ...  JustABozoOnThisBus   May-30-07 06:42 AM   #92 
  - "the KJV is a perfect translation" -- how do they know?  magellan   May-29-07 06:07 PM   #20 
  - God told them.  Bornaginhooligan   May-29-07 06:07 PM   #21 
  - LOL! So close and yet so far  electron_blue   May-30-07 11:16 AM   #115 
  - Well, it was perfect for 17th century England  Gormy Cuss   May-30-07 11:23 AM   #117 
  - Cherchez les moneylenders! "If you're not VERY careful you'll end up IN a bad version"  blondeatlast   May-29-07 06:07 PM   #22 
  - I can picture the poor little teen IN the whale's belly or something!  Bluebear   May-29-07 06:15 PM   #25 
     - That's how the French do it, see? We offer them bad Bible  blondeatlast   May-29-07 06:21 PM   #27 
  - Oh, it's such a goldmine!  dave_p   May-29-07 06:27 PM   #28 
  - Silly rabbit. There's no Bible in French.  KamaAina   May-29-07 06:28 PM   #29 
  - Something I agree with  dave_p   May-29-07 06:38 PM   #30 
  - k&r for Bluebear's funny post....n/t  Madspirit   May-29-07 06:46 PM   #32 
  - In my teen years, I studied the Bible in English. I was also taking French  Nikia   May-29-07 06:47 PM   #33 
  - For mainline Protestants , the KJV IS the "Authorized" Bible.  WinkyDink   May-29-07 06:48 PM   #35 
  - Yes, we're just such an evil, evil bunch of people.  Bluebear   May-29-07 10:41 PM   #42 
  - Easier targets  spoony   May-29-07 11:23 PM   #62 
  - Uh huh.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-29-07 11:28 PM   #66 
     - Wow, you can post pictures  spoony   May-29-07 11:35 PM   #68 
  - Thank you for your concern. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-29-07 11:27 PM   #65 
  - You share a remarkable lack of subtlety when calling people trolls  spoony   May-29-07 11:36 PM   #70 
  - I can only imagine  Bluebear   May-29-07 11:37 PM   #71 
     - Just more dissent you'd want nothing to do with.  spoony   May-29-07 11:39 PM   #73 
     - You shouldn't ignore posters like that, really. My momma always said...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-29-07 11:43 PM   #77 
  - This website SUCKS.  WritingIsMyReligion   May-30-07 05:30 AM   #88 
  - Dude, it doesn't MATTER if they're teens or not. I'm a teenager, and I have more sense than that.  TheFriendlyAnarchist   May-30-07 07:08 AM   #95 
  - We're not mocking a teen board. We're mocking the ignorant shitheads AT a teen board.  Rabrrrrrr   May-30-07 01:58 PM   #123 
  - Actually, it's not the KJV  supernova   May-30-07 03:21 PM   #128 
  - "NO FRENCH! Read your Scripture in ENGLISH, the language Jesus spoke!"  igil   May-29-07 06:49 PM   #36 
  - Sorry for misleading everybody.  Bluebear   May-29-07 10:43 PM   #43 
  - The question is,  Jed Dilligan   May-29-07 07:19 PM   #37 
  - The nonsense about the KJV is foolish  dsc   May-29-07 07:47 PM   #38 
  - You don't think it's goofy to say "you might end up in a bad translation"?  Bluebear   May-29-07 10:44 PM   #44 
  - No I don't  dsc   May-30-07 12:41 AM   #80 
  - But English is considered the original bad translation.  gatorboy   May-29-07 10:54 PM   #48 
  - KJV is a "perfect translation"?  Left Is Write   May-29-07 07:54 PM   #39 
  - now that's rich  Solly Mack   May-29-07 07:56 PM   #40 
  - KJV has substantial problems and is very difficult to read  Perky   May-29-07 08:01 PM   #41 
  - I was taught to read and understand Latin & French, in grade school.  Breeze54   May-29-07 10:47 PM   #45 
  - I've read the Bible in French.  mycritters2   May-29-07 10:47 PM   #46 
  - Maybe they should go back to the original Latin,  gatorboy   May-29-07 10:52 PM   #47 
  - Hmm - is that sarcasm?  muriel_volestrangler   May-30-07 05:27 AM   #87 
  - No, actually it's not  LibertyLover   May-30-07 01:46 PM   #120 
     - The original books of the bible were in Hebrew, Greek and a little Aramaic  muriel_volestrangler   May-30-07 03:10 PM   #127 
        - Absolutely -  LibertyLover   May-30-07 03:34 PM   #129 
  - But the original wasn't in Latin. n/t  geardaddy   May-30-07 02:09 PM   #124 
  - "Though the KJV is a perfect translation,.."  ContraBass Black   May-29-07 10:58 PM   #50 
  - jesus h cthulhu  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 10:59 PM   #51 
  - haha!  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 11:00 PM   #54 
  - Bro Randy amuses me so much.  LeftyMom   May-29-07 11:04 PM   #55 
  - this says it all  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 11:05 PM   #56 
  - oh my god  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 11:08 PM   #57 
  - I just read that one  Oeditpus Rex   May-30-07 01:25 AM   #81 
  - French???  GTRMAN   May-29-07 11:10 PM   #58 
  - ok, need to cap this off  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 11:19 PM   #60 
  - I'm still hunting for the bible in Klingonese...anyone? n/t  cynatnite   May-29-07 11:22 PM   #61 
  - think I will get a copy of the Luther Bible (in German)  kineneb   May-29-07 11:27 PM   #64 
  - Great point, his work was vital  spoony   May-29-07 11:38 PM   #72 
  - The copying alone that was done in early Christianity...  cynatnite   May-29-07 11:35 PM   #69 
  - Not to mention all the drunk interpreters!  Breeze54   May-29-07 11:40 PM   #74 
     - Many scribes in those early days couldn't even read, but they copied...  cynatnite   May-29-07 11:42 PM   #76 
        - Wow! You look young for your age!  Breeze54   May-29-07 11:49 PM   #78 
  - They better learn Latin, Greek and Hebrew. And a bit of Aramaic.  Perragrande   May-29-07 11:41 PM   #75 
  - I prefer the KJV. "New" translations seem to be apologetics.  Nevernose   May-29-07 11:51 PM   #79 
  - Check some of the Teens-4-Christ rules:  Oeditpus Rex   May-30-07 01:39 AM   #82 
  - Wow, who knew that about debaters?  Connonym   May-30-07 05:54 AM   #90 
     - Shit, I've been wasting all this time NOT making money in return for sex. Since I'm  grace0418   May-30-07 09:47 AM   #112 
  - ...What? KJV is a "perfect" translation? What?  baby_mouse   May-30-07 05:03 AM   #85 
  - I'm weary of seeing religions - even extremist FECs like this - picked on.  bertha katzenengel   May-30-07 05:11 AM   #86 
  - and I am weary of people like you who believe religion is above  jonnyblitz   May-30-07 06:48 AM   #93 
  - Looks like we're both weary.  bertha katzenengel   May-30-07 07:47 AM   #98 
  - not criticizing religion is part of why we are in the state we are in  lionesspriyanka   May-30-07 07:06 AM   #94 
  - It has always worked against humanity - agreed.  bertha katzenengel   May-30-07 08:42 AM   #104 
     - no i think making rational arguments against any belief system whether it be political or religious  lionesspriyanka   May-30-07 09:17 AM   #107 
  - They deserve to be criticized.  Deep13   May-30-07 09:41 AM   #109 
  - isnt transalation into english already a 'second generation' translation?  lionesspriyanka   May-30-07 06:36 AM   #91 
  - HaVing studied Koines Greek in college  LostinVA   May-30-07 07:42 AM   #96 
  - Wow, I may just take a class in Koines Greek now  AllegroRondo   May-30-07 07:51 AM   #99 
  - It was  LostinVA   May-30-07 08:28 AM   #103 
  - I've studied Greek, too.  donco6   May-30-07 08:06 AM   #101 
     - All seven of us would ALL have different translations  LostinVA   May-30-07 08:25 AM   #102 
     - People just don't understand . . .  donco6   May-30-07 09:42 AM   #110 
        - Including certain idioms and cultural ideas/references  LostinVA   May-30-07 09:48 AM   #113 
     - I've been trying to study it alone  TrogL   May-30-07 02:56 PM   #126 
        - I'd bet more than 50% of "Bible Believers" . . .  donco6   May-30-07 05:16 PM   #132 
  - Yeah, read in God's language, English.  Deep13   May-30-07 07:56 AM   #100 
  - KJV is a perfect translation  Bassic   May-30-07 09:06 AM   #105 
  - They tell some real FUNNY jokes.  edbermac   May-30-07 09:25 AM   #108 
  - let me rephrase the punchline  jollyreaper2112   May-30-07 02:51 PM   #125 
  - "second generation translations"... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. It came from God's mouth  grace0418   May-30-07 09:44 AM   #111 
  - So I guess that Klingon version I downloaded is no good.  trogdor   May-30-07 11:18 AM   #116 
  - Philistines have no honour!  billyskank   May-30-07 12:06 PM   #119 
  - They read the bible?  billyskank   May-30-07 12:04 PM   #118 
  - English didn't exist in Jesus' time.  geardaddy   May-30-07 01:52 PM   #121 
  - Sacre merde!  bikebloke   May-30-07 03:43 PM   #130 
  - Do they actually believe the bullshit they spew?  EstimatedProphet   May-31-07 08:36 PM   #133 
 

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