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yo-yo-ma Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:57 PM
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32. pushing lots of water isn't the solution
because it doesn't sound like a kidney problem

I mean - I don't know exactly but I'm a human doctor and have had many cats. From the xray you said that his bladder was grossly distended. This means that his kidneys are producing urine. Sounds loike he has urinary retention and filling him with IV or sub q fluids will only make that baldder fill faster. Most of the prior posts refer to the treatmetn kidney diseases in cats (rather common) different, I think, from whats going on with you.

It's unclear what's caused the urinary retention. It doesn't sound like the vet knows. It could be an infection, but, with the proper antibiotic, he should get better not worse. Other things that could cause it are stones (as mentioned above), if a stone lodges blocking the urethra, these tend to be quite painful. (Here is a situation where heavy hydration would work) Other things are neurological, the nerves to the bladder aren't functioning well (doesn't sense when its full - from something in the spinal cord)-- very very rare; or a growth or tumor inside of the bladder -- also very very rare and perhaps could have been seen on xray.

You need a diagnosis, and if the cat's getting worse, take him in. Tests that could help would be (and they might have done) - looking at the urine for both stones and infection, urine culture, blood tests for infection - a panel like that costs less than $50.

Bottom line - if he's drinking (normally - cats don't drink a lot, compared to dogs) but peeing less, he could easily still have urinary retention. Cathing the bladder just makes it go away temporarily. Then the urine accumulates and the bladder expands, until finally it can't grow any more and then it literally starts to spill over - which you see in small bits of urine.

Please take him in. And please don't force the water.

You're a good person to care -

It is very hard to read a sick animal.

Best of luck
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  -Can any of you cat people help me out? two gun sid  Feb-23-05 05:44 PM   #0 
  - Sounds like, what is it, FUS?  crispini   Feb-23-05 05:46 PM   #1 
  - I'm giving him canned with water added.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 05:48 PM   #4 
     - Ice cubes in his water bowl might spark an interest.  Lars39   Feb-23-05 05:52 PM   #7 
     - Thanks. I'll try it.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 05:53 PM   #10 
     - What *kind* of canned?  crispini   Feb-23-05 06:02 PM   #17 
        - He's not forming crystals.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 07:14 PM   #36 
  - Don't know anything about his sickness, but  shraby   Feb-23-05 05:47 PM   #2 
  - I tried that. The knucklehead fights me the whole time.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 05:55 PM   #11 
  - Did they do an Xray? Bladder stones can cause this sort of trouble.  MrsGrumpy   Feb-23-05 05:47 PM   #3 
  - Had x-rays. Nothing unusual except his bladder....  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 05:51 PM   #6 
  - Our 'Colonel Thompson' had that problem...  dicksteele   Feb-23-05 05:49 PM   #5 
  - What was the name of the food?  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 05:52 PM   #9 
     - hang on while I go look....  dicksteele   Feb-23-05 05:58 PM   #13 
        - Thank-you. Thank-you.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:01 PM   #15 
           - Yer very welcome  dicksteele   Feb-23-05 06:05 PM   #18 
  - I suggest you look into getting  calico1   Feb-23-05 05:52 PM   #8 
  - That sounds like something that might work.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 05:57 PM   #12 
  - Running water  uppityperson   Feb-23-05 06:42 PM   #26 
     - Yes, and a slowly running faucet is the best.  Lindacooks   Feb-23-05 07:34 PM   #39 
  - Quinn and Althea lover their Freshflow  ET Awful   Feb-23-05 06:16 PM   #22 
  - I would get him as hydrated as possible  benny05   Feb-23-05 05:58 PM   #14 
  - He was hydrated over the weekend.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:40 PM   #25 
  - Seeif you can a syringe-like thingy to give him the liquid meds. I got  BrklynLiberal   Feb-23-05 06:01 PM   #16 
  - Got a dropper. I just suck using it.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:46 PM   #27 
  - A Low Ash Diet  khashka   Feb-23-05 06:08 PM   #19 
  - Thanks for all the good info.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:51 PM   #28 
  - Poor little fella  DustMolecule   Feb-23-05 06:09 PM   #20 
  - Thanks.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:52 PM   #29 
  - Giving meds  NV Whino   Feb-23-05 06:14 PM   #21 
  - Thanks.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:56 PM   #31 
     - There is also the "wrap him in a towel" method.  NV Whino   Feb-24-05 11:18 AM   #43 
  - If this is cystitis, ask the vet about giving him Vitamin C.  NYC   Feb-23-05 06:30 PM   #23 
  - I'll ask my vet about that.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:57 PM   #33 
  - is he a black male?  pansypoo53219   Feb-23-05 06:32 PM   #24 
  - I had a black male cat who never had this problem.  NYC   Feb-23-05 06:55 PM   #30 
  - He's a gray tiger.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 06:58 PM   #34 
  - pushing lots of water isn't the solution  yo-yo-ma   Feb-23-05 06:57 PM   #32 
  - Thanks Doc  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 07:10 PM   #35 
  - antibiotics shouldn't make him sluggish  yo-yo-ma   Feb-23-05 07:57 PM   #40 
  - As a person with a cat  khashka   Feb-23-05 07:24 PM   #37 
  - has the vet counseled you about diet? also advice re administering  Eloriel   Feb-23-05 07:32 PM   #38 
  - I got a lot of good diet info from y'all.  two gun sid   Feb-23-05 08:02 PM   #41 
  - Your vet can answer you about the urinating, but the food....  napi21   Feb-23-05 08:11 PM   #42 

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