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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:20 PM
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44. Rap is a totally different genre altogether.
If you don't like it... don't listen.
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  -Rap...death of the great black musician. PoliticsSportsMusic  Jul-22-04 07:01 PM   #0 
  - Of course all the "bad" rap is emphasized in the mainstream.  ALago1   Jul-22-04 07:03 PM   #1 
  - You have just inspired such rage in me that I can't even contain myself!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:03 PM   #2 
  - Sounds like flame bait to me  Taverner   Jul-22-04 07:04 PM   #4 
  - Abso-fucking-lutely!!! This REALLY pisses me off!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:06 PM   #8 
     - Yeah...are you suggesting I'm racist cuz I hate rap?????  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:11 PM   #23 
        - Wow - you're sensitive too  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:17 PM   #36 
  - John Coltrane...great musician...name one rapper on his level..n/t  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:04 PM   #6 
  - The question presumes  Dookus   Jul-22-04 07:06 PM   #7 
  - First define 'great musician.' n/t  democracyindanger   Jul-22-04 07:06 PM   #9 
  - Chuck D  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:06 PM   #11 
  - And what instrument does Chuck play?  mitchum   Jul-22-04 07:29 PM   #58 
     - He plays the instrument of his voice!!!!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:34 PM   #68 
        - No Zeppelin fan here  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:10 PM   #110 
           - Try again? - you're not saying anything - just childish subject lines  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:11 PM   #114 
              - With all due respect, your race-baiting is childish  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:32 PM   #132 
                 - I always feel this issue is subtly racist - can't help it  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:59 PM   #140 
                    - But the original poster seemed to be bemoaning the current lack...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:24 PM   #148 
                       - Ok - so how does this anecdote justify your point?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:29 PM   #150 
                          - Your suspicion that any criticism of rap was subtly racist...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:41 PM   #153 
                             - Here's where you're wrong - you are arguing opinion as fact  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:48 PM   #156 
                                - It IS all about my taste...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:59 PM   #160 
                                   - Art Appreciation is about opinions - aesthetics needs to be proven  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 10:00 PM   #161 
  - Tupac Shakur.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:09 PM   #17 
  - Well, that's just fucking ridiculous  mitchum   Jul-22-04 07:27 PM   #54 
     - Oh, well if you say so.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:29 PM   #59 
     - Use your ears  mitchum   Jul-22-04 07:41 PM   #76 
        - Yeah, I have.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:43 PM   #79 
        - Mitchum - for a 1000+ poster you take the cake with childish provocation  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:43 PM   #81 
           - DrWeird is gonna be so jealous when he reads that  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:01 PM   #142 
     - Please enlighten us!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:35 PM   #69 
        - See post 71 (In your heart of hearts, you know it's true)  mitchum   Jul-22-04 07:40 PM   #75 
           - You're trying to get me banned - very childish  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:42 PM   #78 
           - Man, I am not trying to get you banned  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:17 PM   #120 
           - Real musicians respect all forms and genres...  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:44 PM   #82 
           - You're wrong. We're aesthetic bigots...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:15 PM   #118 
              - Prove it  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:17 PM   #121 
                 - Well, let me gas up the time machine...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:27 PM   #126 
                    - Proof you were "doing 2 turntable, bass, and drum machine performances"?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:30 PM   #130 
                       - Prove that you're not back on the sauce  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:39 PM   #134 
                          - you're right!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:41 PM   #136 
                             - I never said that it was not music  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:58 PM   #139 
                                - But if you have mastery over a sampler or drum machine or synth how is  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:01 PM   #141 
                                   - And ProTools makes anyone a singer  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:07 PM   #143 
                                      - As a painter who uses photoshop - I feel that a tool is a tool. "Relying"  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:10 PM   #145 
                                         - Well, I don't like ANY polka music...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:33 PM   #151 
                                            - I use photoshop for compositioning only for painting  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:39 PM   #152 
                                            - Thanks  mitchum   Jul-22-04 09:43 PM   #154 
           - See post 74 where I asked why post 71 trailed off incoherently!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:49 PM   #91 
  - MC 900 ft Jesus  Billy Burnett   Jul-22-04 07:23 PM   # 
  - ever heard of the roots?  frylock   Jul-22-04 08:04 PM   #105 
  - This is flame bait for no good reason. Rap's no worse than Nashville or  billbuckhead   Jul-22-04 07:12 PM   #26 
  - I disagree..  Dookus   Jul-22-04 07:04 PM   #3 
  - Tell me a rap group worth listening to...I'll try it...n/t  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:06 PM   #10 
     - Why bother?  Dookus   Jul-22-04 07:08 PM   #14 
     - Check out Anticon  cqhayes   Jul-22-04 07:08 PM   #15 
     - Public Enemy, Common, Black Star, Beastie Boys, Cannibal Ox, Atmoshphere  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:09 PM   #18 
     - Beastie Boys....LOL.....MORONS,with squeaky voices...n/t  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:13 PM   #28 
        - You have just outed yourself - the B Boys are liberals!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:15 PM   #31 
        - Good logic....LOL  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:19 PM   #40 
           - You're beating me - dismissing a whole genre of art?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:21 PM   #45 
              - Sorry,I don't consider it art....I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE...  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:24 PM   #50 
                 - Who's gonna "get your back"? Please!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:27 PM   #52 
                 - I thought you were winning the argument.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:28 PM   #55 
                    - Exactamundo!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:30 PM   #60 
        - What makes the Beastie Boys morons then? Calling for Bush's removal  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:28 PM   #57 
        - paul's boutique is one of the seminal albums of the genre  frylock   Jul-22-04 08:07 PM   #107 
           - agreed - as is Blowout Comb from Digable Planets  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:12 PM   #116 
     - OK, start off with something everyone can get into:  ALago1   Jul-22-04 07:10 PM   #20 
        - The Bomb Squad changed music as we know it!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:12 PM   #25 
  - You go further than New Orleans!!! Cause there's Hip Hop there  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:04 PM   #5 
  - Doo-bee-doop Bap-bah Badda-bip badda  htuttle   Jul-22-04 07:06 PM   #12 
  - I'm all over this thread - I will be here till its dead!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:07 PM   #13 
  - Dude, it aint worth it  Taverner   Jul-22-04 07:10 PM   #19 
  - REMEBER I SAID MUSICIAN....THEY DON'T PLAY OR SING...  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:08 PM   #16 
  - Are you arguing that rythym is not an element of music?  Taverner   Jul-22-04 07:11 PM   #21 
  - Rythym is an element of music  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-22-04 07:31 PM   #62 
     - But to call it the death of black music  Taverner   Jul-22-04 07:33 PM   #67 
     - I don't think it's the death of black music  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-22-04 07:50 PM   #92 
        - I do - Ahmir ?uestlove Thompson from the roots  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:54 PM   #95 
        - What about foreign rap artists in languages you don't understand?  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-22-04 08:40 PM   #135 
           - Absolutely I can - in fact I love hearing Japanese rhyming. Some good  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:51 PM   #138 
              - I don't know about them  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-22-04 09:07 PM   #144 
                 - Hip Hop - much as Jazz has - has EXPLODED throughout the world  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:13 PM   #146 
                    - Elevator music has also exploded throughout the world  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-22-04 09:18 PM   #147 
                       - Your a fan of instrumental music. You don't like producer made music  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:25 PM   #149 
                          - Actually not quite a difference of opinion - I'm open to changing my mind  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-22-04 09:47 PM   #155 
                             - Rahzel has done what you speak of  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 09:58 PM   #158 
        - You have hit upon the point of this (and the reason I jumped in)  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:48 PM   #137 
     - That is even MORE BULLSHIT!!! There are instrumental Hip Hop artists  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:41 PM   #77 
  - That's Fucking Bullshit!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:11 PM   #22 
  - I see you are a frustrated rapper???  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:16 PM   #33 
  - Personal attacks?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:19 PM   #38 
  - That's fucking ignorant!  Amaya   Jul-22-04 07:31 PM   # 
  - but... but...  Dookus   Jul-22-04 07:20 PM   #42 
  - Yeah All Caps wins!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:22 PM   #46 
  - It is indeed an art form, but we real musicians don't consider...  mitchum   Jul-22-04 07:37 PM   #71 
     - What in the fuck are you talking about?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:39 PM   #74 
     - ...delude themselves into thinking that mouse clicks equal chops  mitchum   Jul-22-04 07:43 PM   #80 
        - Ok - you guys are fucking ridiculous  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:45 PM   #84 
        - I say the same thing about the springs on a sax  Billy Burnett   Jul-22-04 07:47 PM   #89 
           - Hell, anything newer than an oud is just a pop gimmick  mitchum   Jul-22-04 08:30 PM   #129 
     - If you have gears on your tuners you aren't a "real" musician  Billy Burnett   Jul-22-04 07:44 PM   #83 
  - Can Coltrane rap?  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:12 PM   #24 
  - False logic...  PoliticsSportsMusic   Jul-22-04 07:31 PM   #63 
     - Yes they sing - they use their voices to make words with the rhythm  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:38 PM   #72 
     - Are you an adult?  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:38 PM   #73 
        - My slapping an ignorant poster silly is music if you think about it!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:46 PM   #87 
  - They don't sing? Have you heard the Love Below?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:14 PM   #30 
     - Snoop dogg can sing.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:16 PM   #32 
  - I put on Don't Believe the Hype for this occasion  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:13 PM   #27 
  - I know exactly what you mean, PSM  Skittles   Jul-22-04 07:13 PM   #29 
  - Skittles - no! How can you condemn an artform?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:16 PM   #34 
  - I don't dislike rap as much as I miss that old music  Skittles   Jul-22-04 07:19 PM   #39 
     - Have You heard Jill Scott?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:23 PM   #48 
        - no, but I will check her out  Skittles   Jul-22-04 07:26 PM   #51 
           - I have a version of the Stylistics doing Burt Bacharach's  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:32 PM   #65 
  - Actually...  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:17 PM   #35 
  - I don't think that is true  Skittles   Jul-22-04 07:20 PM   #43 
     - Linkin Park?  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:22 PM   #47 
        - lol  Skittles   Jul-22-04 07:23 PM   #49 
           - Turn it off now, please, LK sucks if you like that sort of music...  cqhayes   Jul-22-04 07:45 PM   #86 
  - There has always been shitty music  ALago1   Jul-22-04 07:17 PM   #37 
     - There is a vibrant and significant underground which makes GREAT music  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:20 PM   #41 
        - I agree  ALago1   Jul-22-04 07:28 PM   #56 
  - Rap is a totally different genre altogether.  Amaya   Jul-22-04 07:20 PM   #44 
  - And just because you don't like it...  WindRavenX   Jul-22-04 07:27 PM   #53 
  - I don't care for rap  Droopy   Jul-22-04 07:31 PM   #61 
  - Excellent Droopy - that's a way to handle immature flame bait  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:37 PM   #70 
  - I used to feel like you but then  MuseRider   Jul-22-04 07:32 PM   #64 
  - First rap I ever heard  johnnie   Jul-22-04 07:33 PM   #66 
  - To your list...  deseo   Jul-22-04 07:45 PM   #85 
  - Why is Tupac "ilk"?  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:51 PM   #93 
  - New School rap, yes....  TufNeck   Jul-22-04 07:46 PM   #88 
  - Tufnek - if you want to learn about the world of vibrant Hip Hop..  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:56 PM   #97 
  - Rap isn't accessible  cprise   Jul-22-04 07:47 PM   #90 
  - If you try and look there's a great underground Hip Hop scene  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:51 PM   #94 
     - I separate....  deseo   Jul-22-04 09:58 PM   #159 
  - As you've posted the flame bait, allow me to drop my MOAB full of napalm..  LowerManhattanite   Jul-22-04 07:55 PM   #96 
  - Well done.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 07:58 PM   #99 
  - USE YOUR EARS  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:10 PM   #111 
  - I'll bust some caps in here....  slutticus   Jul-22-04 08:12 PM   #115 
  - Lowermanhattanite - you are my new favorite DUer  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 07:59 PM   #100 
  - awesome  slutticus   Jul-22-04 08:05 PM   #106 
     - Thanks..  LowerManhattanite   Jul-22-04 08:21 PM   #123 
  - I suppose I'll throw my 2 cents in here, being a Jazz Musician.  Radicalliberal   Jul-22-04 07:56 PM   #98 
  - I have two words for you Cold Vein - El-P's production on this Cannibal Ox  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:08 PM   #108 
  - ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff  Solly Mack   Jul-22-04 07:59 PM   #101 
  - uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkkkk  Droopy   Jul-22-04 08:11 PM   #113 
     - tttttttthhhhhiiiiiissssssss fffffllllllaaaaaaammmmee bbbaaiiittttt  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:18 PM   #122 
        - exactly!!!!  Solly Mack   Jul-22-04 08:28 PM   #128 
           - Done!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:32 PM   #131 
  - All the good rap died years ago.  MrSlayer   Jul-22-04 07:59 PM   #102 
  - But you're talking about the stuff on the radio.  DrWeird   Jul-22-04 08:03 PM   #103 
  - Listen - just because its so commercial doesn't mean its dead  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:03 PM   #104 
  - hey man..  frylock   Jul-22-04 08:09 PM   #109 
     - No I haven't  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:14 PM   #117 
        - check it out..  frylock   Jul-22-04 08:23 PM   #125 
           - Thank you.  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:27 PM   #127 
  - check out some mf doom if you wanna blow your mind..  frylock   Jul-22-04 08:11 PM   #112 
     - WORD!!!!!  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:15 PM   #119 
  - Did we set any records with this ones Mods?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-22-04 08:21 PM   #124 
  - what an idiotic thing to say...  Neo Progressive   Jul-22-04 08:38 PM   #133 
  - Damn....I can't believe I was gone when this happened  TroubleMan   Jul-22-04 09:49 PM   #157 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-22-04 10:02 PM   #162 
 

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