Reply #21: In "my day" ,girls did not entertain dates in pajamas

[SoCalDem]

in bed, with the "kissy stuff"...without the knowledge that it was "going somewhere"..

For her to set "boundaries" and then cross them herself sounds kind of immature and mean..

Maybe she is not the one you are looking for..

But the 2nd date "home runs" are not the way for a lasting respectful relationship either..

Maybe you need to look around some more.. and if a girl says..no sex, then just thank her for the evening, and leave..BEFORE the pajama party...

This stuff is why it's so much nicer if you are friends with the girl and know her as a person and friend, BEFORE the romantic stuff starts..

It must be difficult these days, with all the new games :(

Things were kind of "restrained" when I was young, but we all played by the same rulebook..:)