Reply #63: biggguy.......life is not single-faceted.......sorry to burst your bubble.

[DagmarK]

There are TWO campaigns going on simultaneously.

1. Against Bush for president in 16 months

2. Dems against each other for the primary nomination.

Politics are dirty. But you know what? Dean doesn't make shit up. He's telling the truth. He's addressing the very reason the dems lost the senate in october. Thank fucking god for that! No matter WHO the dem nominee is......at least the dirty laundry of the dem congress has come out.....so the friggin voters can observe WHICH dems are willing to change the crappy, spineless voting activities of the party.

they are being forced to show what they are willing to stand for -- to show their colors. This is because we have Dean in the primary race. You should be more grateful. I would have never thought Geppie would continue to be the bush-lite that he is. But it's darned good to know that!!! Same with Lieberman.

Let's see......we have learned MUCH valuable information about the dem candidates that were it not for Dean, we would not know.

Looks like Graham is willing to turn the corner from spinelessness.

Kucinich is willing to do so.

Geppie......No WAY is he changing his ways.

Lieberman -- that's a no brainer -- he ain't going to be a real dem EVER! Even if it costs him the nomination (and I am sure it will).

Kerry: well......I don't know.......I can't yet decide how much of a spine he might get were he to become president. But it's favorable as to him.

ALSO.....these debates about the performance of the dems serves as DUE NOTICE to ALL DEMS everywhere that they had better get their butts together and start being the dems we elected to represent us OR ELSE.......people like Dean are going to take their precious lobbyist-padded seats in Congress.

Were it not for Dean...NONE of this crap would be on the table. Sure, we'd have Graham and Kucinich piping in here and there, but they wouldn't be as fierce as they are, I'd bet.

Dean is reforming the friggin democratic party, for god's sakes. And it's about damn time.