Reply #78: DistressedAmerican is right and, I'm afraid, Mexico and Canada

[Greyhound]

are neither far enough, nor independent enough, to insulate amerikan ex-pats. I hold no illusions that amerika will react with anything other than violence to its imminent fall and demise. Hopefully it will be limited to internal strife but we are, by far, the craziest bunch on the planet, and we have lots of guns and nukes. Oh yeah, and we really love to use our military.
While we have come through bad times before, this time is very different. We are consolidated within the cities in far greater numbers than in the past, and we have lost all of our self sufficiency. "They" have, in the last 25 years, looted our national treasure, sold off our means of production, and thanks to Monsanto and company, eliminated our ability to feed ourselves.
Our population is illiterate and ignorant of the rest of the world which, thanks to our conceit and never ending propaganda, they hold in absolute contempt. It is too late, the groundwork has been laid and the masters are just waiting for the inevitable series of collapses to make their move.
I believe we are talking about survival, so the best chance is in a country that is really independent from amerika. I'm thinking France for my gang and New Zealand sounds like a great choice, although as stated in another thread, they are not exactly encouraging us to come.
Are you ready? :tinfoilhat: