Reply #51: I understand your post. . .

[MsUnderstood]

You can't avoid pain so why not give your kids a taste of it before they go out into the real world.

I think my kid experiences enough pain from asshats who think being mean has to be a fact of life. I don't need to add to it by training her that everyone, including me, is going to be mean.

And when you kid needs you, because they did something wrong like drugs, underage sex, drinking at a party, they aren't gonna come to you because they know you respond with violence.

They way you treat your kid at 5 is what they are gonna remember at 15. You disipline by discussion, cause and effect (rather than yelling and violence) then you have a better chance of helping them through the teenage years.