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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:38 PM
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80. here ya go
So why didn't the new US translation find the same discrepancies as the German translators did? Read the article in USA Today against the grain: "Michael, who is originally Lebanese, translated the tape with Kassem Wahba, an Egyptian. Both men had difficulties with the Saudi dialect bin Laden and his guest use in the tape, Michael said

http://www.rense.com/general18/inac.htm


But two other Arabic experts say the tape's audio quality is so poor that almost nothing bin Laden says on it can be verified. To my ears, well accustomed to Arabic, half of bin Laden's words were inaudible. The translation was sometimes out of sync with the action on screen. Bin Laden's statements looked cut up and edited.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1217-07.htm
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  -Anyone have any evidence that Osama did 9/11? Fusions_Minion  Jul-09-04 10:27 PM   #0 
  - welcome to DU Fusions_Minions  AZDemDist6   Jul-09-04 10:28 PM   #1 
  - Yes, welcome to DU  LiberalManiacfromOC   Jul-10-04 12:29 PM   #33 
  - No shit.  DenverDem   Jul-09-04 10:28 PM   #2 
  - LOL!  JohnLocke   Jul-10-04 09:52 AM   #22 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-04 11:52 AM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-04 12:19 PM   #31 
        - Heh...  Concordance   Jul-10-04 01:01 PM   #47 
           - I removed it becasue it was too big.  JohnLocke   Jul-10-04 01:05 PM   #51 
              - It's a hate site.  Concordance   Jul-10-04 01:20 PM   #55 
                 - Right...  JohnLocke   Jul-10-04 02:10 PM   #73 
                    - Yup, right.  Concordance   Jul-10-04 03:05 PM   #88 
  - Didn't he take the credit for it?  Ozonesafe   Jul-10-04 12:44 PM   #37 
     - You have some link for when he did such a thing  Bandit   Jul-10-04 12:54 PM   #43 
        - Sorry...no link  Ozonesafe   Jul-10-04 12:59 PM   #46 
           - I don't know who did it except for those that died doing the deed  Bandit   Jul-10-04 02:25 PM   #78 
  - well there's hearsay and conjecture..  frylock   Jul-09-04 10:30 PM   #3 
  - I think maybe he had some connection to it.  mmonk   Jul-09-04 10:30 PM   #4 
  - I'll say this  Fusions_Minion   Jul-09-04 10:33 PM   #5 
  - yes she is  mmonk   Jul-09-04 10:39 PM   #8 
  - Isn't there some debate  Geia   Jul-09-04 10:37 PM   #6 
  - I believe he  mmonk   Jul-09-04 10:42 PM   #9 
  - pakastani isi  frylock   Jul-09-04 10:45 PM   #10 
  - See my post #13...photos for comparative purposes.  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-09-04 10:56 PM   #17 
  - in the same way  WoodrowFan   Jul-10-04 09:51 AM   #21 
  - Hey Woodrow  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 10:00 AM   #23 
  - Hand gesture in said video  alphafemale   Jul-10-04 10:12 AM   #24 
     - "multiple attacks intended to take out emergency responders"  meluseth   Jul-10-04 12:12 PM   #29 
        - When Did The Israeli's Use Multiple Attacks To Take Out Emergency  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-10-04 01:32 PM   #61 
           - Many responders and witnesses have reported IDF attacks  meluseth   Jul-10-04 02:22 PM   #76 
  - Al-Queda will take credit  Bush was AWOL   Jul-09-04 10:38 PM   #7 
  - No, Osama originally denied that he had any involvement, and....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-09-04 10:49 PM   #13 
     - Maybe Bush did do it then.....  Ozonesafe   Jul-10-04 01:04 PM   #50 
  - Yeah, sure:  beam_me_up   Jul-09-04 10:46 PM   #11 
  - I have a photo  donhakman   Jul-09-04 10:46 PM   #12 
  - The pink panther is in on this too.  Fusions_Minion   Jul-09-04 10:56 PM   #16 
  - Yeah...  HOWLIN_WOLF   Jul-09-04 10:53 PM   #14 
  - Well, this article goes in the opposite direction....from the FBI....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-09-04 10:54 PM   #15 
  - No paper trail.. well maybe a phony one.  Fusions_Minion   Jul-09-04 11:05 PM   #18 
  - And, at least five attended U. S. military schools, which strongly...  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-09-04 11:17 PM   #19 
     - Kick for US military trained evildoers  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 09:48 AM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-04 02:25 PM   #79 
        - The idea that the US military trained Osama's people is stupid  rumguy   Jul-10-04 04:02 PM   #102 
  - Didn't they arrest the No.3 Al-Qaeda guy  CJCRANE   Jul-10-04 04:39 PM   #110 
  - The PNAC Cabal hired him to be the Hit Man  LunaC   Jul-10-04 11:27 AM   #25 
  - thanks for that excellent summary  smallprint   Jul-10-04 12:25 PM   #32 
  - My pleasure!  LunaC   Jul-10-04 12:36 PM   #34 
  - Do you have a link for this? Please provide one if you have it....  kaiso   Jul-10-04 02:07 PM   #72 
  - Never could have seen it coming but instantly knew who did it  awake   Jul-10-04 11:57 AM   #27 
  - You nailed the telling point in this...  indigobusiness   Jul-10-04 12:40 PM   #35 
  - There is no absolute direct evidence ....  Trajan   Jul-10-04 12:01 PM   #28 
  - The videotape where OBL says he did it.  TexasSissy   Jul-10-04 12:15 PM   #30 
  - Do you speak Arabic?  Pastiche423   Jul-10-04 12:41 PM   #36 
  - There are transcripts of the full translation of the that video  rumguy   Jul-10-04 12:50 PM   #40 
     - Link to the transcripts, please  Pastiche423   Jul-10-04 12:56 PM   #44 
        - Here  rumguy   Jul-10-04 01:01 PM   #48 
  - I never saw that  lazarus   Jul-10-04 12:44 PM   #38 
  - IIRC, Powell's dog ate the white paper  Pastiche423   Jul-10-04 12:51 PM   #42 
  - the "fat Osama" tape?  Astarho   Jul-10-04 12:51 PM   #41 
  - no one with any credibility doubts that was Osama on the tape  rumguy   Jul-10-04 01:26 PM   #58 
     - Do you believe in the "the cave man did it" conspiracy theory?  Pastiche423   Jul-10-04 01:47 PM   #65 
     - So Middle Eastern governments are just standing by while  rumguy   Jul-10-04 01:56 PM   #66 
     - Show me the proof that OBL did it!  Pastiche423   Jul-10-04 02:05 PM   #71 
     - You need to get your stories straight  rumguy   Jul-10-04 01:59 PM   #69 
        - What stories?  Pastiche423   Jul-10-04 02:12 PM   #74 
           - He's on tape admitting to it  rumguy   Jul-10-04 02:23 PM   #77 
     - Really?  Astarho   Jul-10-04 01:56 PM   #67 
        - Got a link or two about this 'trouble with the translation' thing  rumguy   Jul-10-04 02:02 PM   #70 
           - here ya go  Astarho   Jul-10-04 02:38 PM   #80 
           - There is little doubt about the parts where he admitted to it  rumguy   Jul-10-04 02:42 PM   #82 
           - I never saw that  CJCRANE   Jul-10-04 04:35 PM   #109 
  - the videotape, real or not, proves absolutely nothing-- here's why  smallprint   Jul-10-04 01:35 PM   #63 
     - the people who carried it out had demonstrable links to bin Laden  rumguy   Jul-10-04 02:40 PM   #81 
        - You mean the living hijackers..  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 02:43 PM   #84 
           - that is hardly even worth a response  rumguy   Jul-10-04 02:48 PM   #85 
  - There's a goddamn videotape HE sent out where he admits to it  rumguy   Jul-10-04 12:48 PM   #39 
  - You won't hear me claim OBL didn't do it. The question is  awake   Jul-10-04 01:02 PM   #49 
     - That's a theory, you can't claim it to be absolutely true  rumguy   Jul-10-04 01:10 PM   #52 
        - Yep, I can't claim it to be absolutely true  awake   Jul-10-04 01:16 PM   #53 
        - I'm With You... Bush Is A Chump...  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-10-04 01:22 PM   #56 
           - OK, how about the people who installed the simian in office then?  awake   Jul-10-04 01:30 PM   #60 
              - I Don't Think So...  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-10-04 01:33 PM   #62 
                 - Cheney, Rumsfeld, Saudi Royals, Carlyse, Halliburton, Enron...  awake   Jul-10-04 01:45 PM   #64 
  - Try this maybe just maybe one of the most  LibertyorDeath   Jul-10-04 12:56 PM   #45 
  - This Is Akin To "Is Hitler Responsible For The Final Solution"...  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-10-04 01:17 PM   #54 
  - Your rhetoric is charming but....  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 01:25 PM   #57 
     - What Evidence Are You Looking For...  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-10-04 01:29 PM   #59 
  - This thread is a bit scary  DWolper   Jul-10-04 01:59 PM   #68 
  - Did Osama also steal anthrax from Fort Detrick  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 02:42 PM   #83 
  - No one is claming that Osama had anything to do with that...  rumguy   Jul-10-04 02:49 PM   #86 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-04 03:13 PM   #90 
  - Fusions  DWolper   Jul-10-04 04:13 PM   #103 
  - Yes, all these threads are scary....  TomNickell   Jul-10-04 03:58 PM   #99 
  - I find your "expert" even scarier  meluseth   Jul-10-04 04:19 PM   #105 
     - You are very wrong  DWolper   Jul-10-04 04:27 PM   #106 
        - What he reports as Williams' "facts" are psychotic bullshit  meluseth   Jul-10-04 04:29 PM   #107 
           - About YOUR "expert"  DWolper   Jul-10-04 04:50 PM   #111 
              - Oh stop it  meluseth   Jul-10-04 04:54 PM   #112 
  - There was a video of him having dinner with some visiting  Cleita   Jul-10-04 02:14 PM   #75 
  - here's the skinny on "Fat Osama":  Minstrel Boy   Jul-10-04 02:55 PM   #87 
     - the clips we've seen of him have been taken at different times  rumguy   Jul-10-04 03:11 PM   #89 
        - And can he change his facial bone structure and then change it back?  maveric   Jul-10-04 03:22 PM   #91 
        - He doesn't change his bone structure  rumguy   Jul-10-04 03:27 PM   #93 
        - listen to yourself  homelandpunk   Jul-10-04 03:26 PM   #92 
           - the pictures and videos we've seen of him have been taken at widely  rumguy   Jul-10-04 03:32 PM   #94 
              - Do you really believe that the person in ALL of the photos...  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-10-04 03:39 PM   #95 
                 - I see the same guy  rumguy   Jul-10-04 03:43 PM   #96 
                    - You are polluting this thread,  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 03:55 PM   #97 
                       - LOL  rumguy   Jul-10-04 03:59 PM   #100 
                          - Just for you  Fusions_Minion   Jul-10-04 04:16 PM   #104 
  - ROFLMAO!! YES, THERE IS EVIDENCE.  TomNickell   Jul-10-04 03:56 PM   #98 
  - I guess Clarke who stuck his neck out to criticize Bush is also in on it  rumguy   Jul-10-04 04:01 PM   #101 
  - Heh! I love all those different Osama pics..  gatorboy   Jul-10-04 04:30 PM   #108 
 

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