Reply #15: Orwell a reich-winger???

[Maddy McCall]

Reread the post--he is saying that patriotism is grounded in the individual's love of country, whereas nationalism is grounded in a rejection of individuality for national power.

Nationalism, because its goal is power, fears dissent. Patriotism encourages thoughtful dissidence because it knows there's strength in the clashing of ideas.

Nationalism thinks it can win only if others lose. Patriotism doesn't see a zero-sum game but seeks answers that benefit everyone.

Nationalism seeks the comfort of order for the sake of order. Thus, it produces such slogans as "America -- love it or leave it" and "My country right or wrong." Patriotism is comfortable with creative chaos, understanding that freedom and liberty sometimes are messy.

Nationalism wins hearts. Patriotism wins hearts and minds.

Nationalism has discipline. Patriotism has soul.

Nationalism, given its way, is too quick to compromise freedom for security. Patriotism would be more cautious.

(This is from an editorial I read to my students--these conclusions are based on the Orwell essay.)