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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:11 AM
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18. Explain to me why anyone that would defend democracy
against threats of election fraud is immediately denounced as "tinfoil". as it stands all election data and all election analysis is kept completely secret. We are handed only the conclusions, aka election results.

based on mere conclusions reported in the media, what rational basis is there to conclude the elections were fair? Or unfair? None. When you can't look at the data (ballots) or how the ballots were processed (trade secret vote counting software) the public is totally prevented from verifying if we have a democracy from time to time, or even at all.

You and i lack the necessary information to be confident this election was free and fair.

Step one: Set up walls of data (ballot) and analysis (counting software) secrecy.
Step Two: Immediately denounce any citizen who, purposely stripped of almost all useful information, expresses curiosity or doubt about the conclusions presented as fact by calling them "tinfoil hatters".

How can we have a system of SELF-government as jefferson intended when we have this kind of nondisclosure and nontransparency at the very point in which the power of the people is transferred to the government, and the government itself administers those elections in secret?

Would you trust anyone to count votes secretly? To either desire this power or to exercise it is, IMO a corrupt act. Having a political enemy count the vote in secret is the image of tyranny. Having your political friend count votes in secret is the image of corruption.

It is time to ask some very basic questions and insist on verifiable democracy. Though it may be a strategic mistake to venture too many educated guesses (aka theories) on what happened behind the veils of secrecy, the secrecy itself is undoubtedly a problem.
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