Reply #93: If the carbon-dating didn't convince the believers that it's fake,

[elperromagico]

this sure as hell won't.

When the carbon-dating came out, the Shroud believers claimed that it really proved nothing (even though many of them had been pushing for the tests) because the fire in Turin could have altered the Shroud's carbon date.

Now they'll say, "But this doesn't have the same 3-D characteristics as the Shroud," citing one of the Shroud's "miraculous" qualities (a quality which has been shown to be less than reliable).

They'll say, "But this doesn't have the pollen on it that is native only to Judea that the Shroud has," despite the explanations as to how pollen of that sort could have gotten on the Shroud.

Those who believe in the Shroud have faith that it is genuine and faith is a hard thing to dispell, as it relies on believing something that cannot really be proven.