Reply #112: Oh ok

[LoganW]

"1) You can’t tell Christians they are responsible for “their religion”. If you didn’t know, the Christian church in America is atomized into a thousand separate Christian sects, and they don’t answer to each other. They barely recognize each others’ existence. Some are no bigger than a single church in a single town. It’s easier to place responsibility on the secular as Bush’s fellow Americans than it is to place responsibility on the Christians as fellow Christians."

Then why do BOTH sides sit around bitching that the others aren't "real christians". As far as I'm concerned all the sects are nuts.

"2) You can’t tell Christians that their religion isn’t valid. Well, you can, but you look stupid. Why? "

Funny how the sects sit around telling each other their religion isn't valid.

"3) You can’t tell Christians that their faith is inconsistent with being liberal or being democrats. Well, again, it would be stupid. Martin Luther King. Jesse Jackson. Jimmy Carter. Heck, even John Kerry and Bill Clinton were committed churchgoers. These people found their best in religion."

You can also find your worst in religion. I would argue it was not religion at all that brought out the best in them.

"Separation of church and state is what makes a discussion of the validity of any particular religion unnecessary."

BS. If there were millions of americans who all of a sudden adopted a belief system that told them jumping up and down twice would eventually let them fly would we have to accept the validity of that? Of course not. With every other type of invalid belief we would not accept it, yet with religion we just have to automatically assume validity?

"Christians who happen to be here"

If you post your religion on a public message board you should expect discussion, including the validity of it.