Reply #126: If you want to see "condescending", check out

[No Exit]

some of the posts by "ultraist". The adjective "domineering" also applies.

Through my work, I represent many a woman who has children, little money, a poor job (if any), and who has been abandoned by some man who moved on to greener pastures.
Here's one of the ways the cycle of failure starts. This is just an EXAMPLE, based on a situation I see frequently. A woman has sex when she is in her teens. (Not talking about her being molested--which is a separate issue.) Gets pregnant. Maybe this happens twice... resulting in two children and a mother who is about 20. At some point the woman is either with the father of her children, or with one of the fathers (if there are two different fathers.) She may marry; or maybe not, if she or the man don't want to marry.

Then the man moves on to some other woman--or he is perhaps too obnoxious for her to stand, in which case SHE moves on. Usually she moves on to another man. However, at some point she may (temporarily) not be with a man. (But she usually IS with a man--b/c men can be a source of much-needed money.)

Generally, the women in this situation I see have not gotten their high school diploma b/c they got pregnant and the disruption caused them to drop out. Usually the women get their GED, eventually.

The woman in this example is now relegated to low-paying jobs, b/c she doesn't even have a high school diploma... even if/when she gets a GED, that doesn't move one very far up on the pay scale. The man she has likely had kids with is usually equally uneducated.

So both of them do the lower-end jobs. BUT men in that bracket might do construction, or offshore work. These jobs pay more BECAUSE THERE IS PHYSICAL RISK INVOLVED. Can the women get such jobs? Yeah, probably so, but frankly, most women have a greater regard for their personal safety than to go around on roofs, or work on an oil rig. So they get jobs as maids or store clerks instead. Lots less money.

The only times this woman has enough money to relax is when she's just linked up to a new man--a man who is no doubt shunning HIS own children, but showering money on our "example" woman (and her children) b/c she's his new girlfriend.

"Empowerment psychobabble"? The babble here is the b.s. about how women are SOOOO victimized by "men" and "the unfair system".

If the father of the children in YOUR post was such a worthless turd that he left FOUR CHILDREN with NO SUPPORT, don't you think the woman might have caught on, perhaps somewhere btw the 3rd and 4th child, that she SHOULDN'T BREED WITH THIS MAN B/C HE WAS AN UNCARING P.O.S.???? What the hell ever happened to PLANNING???? I can understand an unintentional pregnancy; maybe even 2 unintentional prenancies. But FOUR?? Four children produced b/c she kept breeding with a man who is scum who abandons his family??

Women have brains, just like men. Imagine that. Women should be able to figure things out. Should be able to PLAN--at least every now and then. A woman can take control of her personal situation, just as a man can. Excluding mental illness on her part, that is exactly what any woman should do. If she doesn't, it isn't entirely the abandoning man's fault. To hell with the man! Quit keening about his "wrongs"; a woman needn't be fooled by "men" and by the system OVER AND OVER.

For the record, I am a woman--not one of those "evil" men.