Reply #67: Kool aid much?

[Djinn]

"And as far as the noble cause of these insurgents, re-examine that. the leader isn't from Iraq. They are beheading prisoners that are not even soldiers. And the entire insurgency is a religious sect that wants to assemble a theocracy, and is unwilling to operate on any sort of civilized platform. "

1. "the leader" who are you referring to - Al Sadr is considered a leader in the insurgency and he's Iraqi

2. We have no way of knowing if Zarqawi (a) is still alive and (b) how much if anything he has to do with any of the kidnappings/explosions etc

3. "They are beheading prisoners that are not even soldiers" US forces are arresting & torturing people who aren't even soldiers - some have had their children tortured to make them talk, others have been killed. Which is more barbaric

4. Even IF the "entire insurgency is a religious sect that wants to assemble a theocracy" which you have no way of knowing (although interestingly 80% of Iraqi according to several NGO's survey's want US forces out of Iraq) it's NOT up to you or any Americans to decide they CAN'T have that. If the elections ever happen and the vast majority of Iraqi's vote for something along the lines of Iranian system are you going to deny them that - is it democracy only as long as we like it?

5. If soldiers want out of an illegal war they need to do whjat other conscientious objectors have done. US forces have NO RIGHT TO BE IN IRAQ, the entire operation is a war crime. Period.