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flying_blind Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:16 PM
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51. And you will note of course
that Iran is flanked by both the countries our fine Empire is taking on.

Here is a video debate on the AEI site I found compelling and that really does inform this whole train of thinking:

http://www.aei.org/events/eventID.428/event_detail.asp
America is not just the most powerful nation on earth but, arguably, the most powerful nation in history. To protect the global trade routes of democratic capitalism and its own security interests, the United States can intervene anytime, anyplace. Although Americas domain is more seaborne, airborne, and space-based than territorial, some are beginning to refer to this Pax Americana as the American empire. Is the United States an empire? Should we call it that? On July 17, 2003, the New Atlantic Initiative organized a debate on this topic between two renowned authors-Niall Ferguson and Robert Kagan.
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  -Kerry warns he will not deal with Arafat DuctapeFatwa  Oct-10-04 10:12 AM   #0 
  - I would bet that to stop a lot of terrorism in the Middle East,  FloridaPat   Oct-10-04 10:15 AM   #1 
  - Thomas Barnett , Warmonger Extraodinaire, says:  DulceDecorum   Oct-10-04 10:33 AM   #4 
  - Making globalization global  Wright Patman   Oct-10-04 10:44 AM   #7 
  - Next we'll be hearing about "trillionaires"...  bloom   Oct-10-04 09:53 PM   #70 
  - Unilateral Bush?  aquart   Oct-10-04 12:08 PM   #12 
  - and Bresziniski said: We need some international packaging  reorg   Oct-10-04 01:43 PM   #18 
  - What dimension does Barnett Live in?  Axel   Oct-10-04 09:27 PM   #66 
  - Treat them ALL equally. Not just anti-jew but anti-islam as well.  HypnoToad   Oct-10-04 07:23 PM   #54 
  - Didn't Kerry say that the war on Arafat's "ally" Saddam was wrong ?  bayby   Oct-10-04 10:16 AM   #2 
  - Riiiight, just conquer the whole region, then there will be peace.  gsh999   Oct-10-04 02:26 PM   #20 
  - You are so right!  southlandshari   Oct-10-04 10:10 PM   #76 
     - excellent post  flying_blind   Oct-11-04 07:47 AM   #91 
  - Heard that one before  kgfnally   Oct-11-04 12:24 AM   #85 
  - Carry on yet another of Bush's diplomatic disasters.  venus   Oct-10-04 10:28 AM   #3 
  - Arafat's being squeezed out..  aquart   Oct-10-04 12:10 PM   #13 
     - to bad he doesn`t say the same thing  rchsod   Oct-10-04 12:55 PM   #16 
     - There is absolutely ZERO chance for peace -m  JerseygirlCT   Oct-10-04 08:39 PM   #60 
        - Yeah yeah, just kill Arafat and all is well  Axel   Oct-10-04 09:41 PM   #67 
        - What gives you or Sharon the right to determine the leadership  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 09:48 PM   #69 
        - AND.....zero chance for peace  southlandshari   Oct-10-04 10:16 PM   #78 
        - You're exactly right. Arafat is a Piece of shit  Bush was AWOL   Oct-12-04 01:12 AM   #110 
  - http://www.ifamericansknew.org/  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 10:43 AM   #5 
  - Excellent Multimedia Presentation  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 03:13 PM   #24 
  - Let's hope this is one campaign promise Kerry breaks  Owlet   Oct-10-04 10:44 AM   #6 
  - Divide and Conquer - the Israeli plan for the Palstinian Body Politic  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 10:49 AM   #8 
  - um, yeah - about that "courageous" withdrawl from the Gaza:  Minstrel Boy   Oct-10-04 10:52 AM   #9 
  - Among the Settlers  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 11:17 AM   #10 
  - how can anyone "praise" Sharon the bloody?  donsu   Oct-10-04 12:01 PM   #11 
  - Someone on the payroll of AIPAC  IndianaGreen   Oct-11-04 10:19 AM   #95 
  - Sharon urged to trial for war crimes  flying_blind   Oct-11-04 06:32 PM   #103 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-10-04 12:44 PM   #14 
  - what about that pesky Chavez?  tinanator   Oct-10-04 03:24 PM   #26 
  - I don't agree and wont' tow this line...  tlcandie   Oct-10-04 12:47 PM   #15 
  - Every peace is a negotiated peace with the opposing sides.  ladybugg33   Oct-10-04 02:31 PM   #21 
  - There will be no reprieve for you either, John Kerry  downstairsparts   Oct-10-04 01:15 PM   #17 
  - Perhaps Arundhati was right?  Axel   Oct-10-04 10:03 PM   #72 
     - Manufacturing Consent - Pantheon Books, 1988 (long...)  flying_blind   Oct-12-04 12:56 AM   #107 
  - Still can't believe Kerry is the best we can offer ...  DemsUnite   Oct-10-04 02:14 PM   #19 
  - November 3rd...  tlcandie   Oct-10-04 03:38 PM   #27 
  - I already have....  mike_c   Oct-10-04 10:10 PM   #75 
  - Starting to sound like Lydon B. Johnson  0007   Oct-10-04 02:34 PM   #22 
  - He's still out there- the PDA  Axel   Oct-10-04 10:09 PM   #74 
  - I bet the Carlyle Group would love to have Kerry in charge, 'eh?  0007   Oct-10-04 02:53 PM   #23 
  - Of course the USA has nearly forgotten Larry Franklin, alleged spy  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 03:24 PM   #25 
  - Kerry said this because he needs a big Jewish vote to win FL and OH  David Dunham   Oct-10-04 03:55 PM   #28 
     - That fails to explain 37 years of complicity w/Israeli Apartheid  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 04:01 PM   #29 
     - That has some interesting implications. Which of the following is correct?  DuctapeFatwa   Oct-10-04 04:20 PM   #31 
     - Didn't Gore go for the Jewish vote with Lieberman? Wasn't Lieberman  KoKo01   Oct-10-04 05:30 PM   #36 
     - Are you saying that Kerry is a liar???????  IndianaGreen   Oct-11-04 10:29 AM   #97 
  - Preconditions that guarantee no progress  donkeyotay   Oct-10-04 04:20 PM   #30 
  - Religious War - Business is Good!  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 04:25 PM   #32 
     - Hmmm...yes, that quote sounded wise, so it must be pre-9-11  donkeyotay   Oct-10-04 04:39 PM   #35 
  - Bad policy  jpgray   Oct-10-04 04:31 PM   #33 
  - Well...the Dem Party sure cut off the "Left" and even the "centrist" Dean  KoKo01   Oct-10-04 05:32 PM   #37 
     - I think the facts transcend party politics in this case  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 06:13 PM   #39 
     - [repost] - Is AIPAC --- ShUdDeR --- a '527' ???  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 06:29 PM   #41 
     - Presbyterian Church Violates US Antiboycott Laws  flying_blind   Oct-11-04 08:14 PM   #104 
     - It's what the voters want, and what the taxpayers are glad to pay for  DuctapeFatwa   Oct-10-04 07:06 PM   #49 
     - Yes...true. But a "breakdown" of that money would be interesting to see..  KoKo01   Oct-10-04 07:19 PM   #53 
     - Is it wrong to speculate on their opinions having been molded?  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 08:06 PM   #56 
        - Sure. But it keeps coming back to the choice and desire of the people  DuctapeFatwa   Oct-10-04 08:43 PM   #62 
           - I just hafta ask  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 09:06 PM   #64 
              - LOL I think Goebbels has either been reincarnated multiple times or is  DuctapeFatwa   Oct-10-04 09:14 PM   #65 
                 - Anne frank said something about that  Axel   Oct-10-04 10:28 PM   #79 
     - Our American "Foreign Policy" needs a FAIR Playing Field and it takes  KoKo01   Oct-10-04 07:17 PM   #52 
        - I couldn't agree more.  FrustratedDemInNC   Oct-10-04 08:14 PM   #58 
     - Neither Dean or Kucinich could EVER get elected  Bush was AWOL   Oct-12-04 01:14 AM   #111 
  - C-Span dumps Washington journal callers regarding Israel  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 04:39 PM   #34 
  - C-SPAN is dirt, when are people gonna wake up?  tinanator   Oct-10-04 08:43 PM   #61 
  - Right on.  Asher   Oct-10-04 06:06 PM   #38 
  - Kerry does not have any support from me  FrustratedDemInNC   Oct-10-04 06:26 PM   #40 
  - We all know that the occupation is a threat to the future of our country.  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 06:32 PM   #43 
  - Yes.....we've had great support as Dems from the American Jews who  KoKo01   Oct-10-04 07:25 PM   #55 
  - Kerry called the plan to withdraw from Gaza "courageous"  gottaB   Oct-12-04 01:56 AM   #113 
     - Kerry also kissed Sharon's ass and approved his land grab  IndianaGreen   Oct-12-04 07:37 AM   #115 
        - Kerry kissed nobody's ass  gottaB   Oct-12-04 07:49 AM   #118 
           - The only reason we support Israel is because of the Jewish money  IndianaGreen   Oct-12-04 07:56 AM   #119 
  - The political reality of AIPAC is pretty sick  fundyclown   Oct-10-04 06:31 PM   #42 
  - I have to differ on this one...  Asher   Oct-10-04 06:36 PM   #44 
  - If Bush is reelected, Syria and Iran may be next.  fundyclown   Oct-10-04 06:40 PM   #45 
  - I think that touches on another transcends politics wedge issue  DuctapeFatwa   Oct-10-04 08:10 PM   #57 
     - thanks for the link  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 08:22 PM   #59 
  - I won't debate that Iraq is the US-Israel line du jour  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 06:50 PM   #46 
  - But aren't they working on that?  tlcandie   Oct-10-04 06:52 PM   #47 
     - We already had access to Iraq through Saudi Arabia and Kuwait  fundyclown   Oct-10-04 07:05 PM   #48 
     - And you will note of course  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 07:16 PM   #51 
     - Some facts for you to consider  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 07:12 PM   #50 
  - Richer terrorist  Axel   Oct-10-04 10:37 PM   #80 
     - Excellent illustration  southlandshari   Oct-11-04 12:11 AM   #84 
     - Thanks for the cartoon  fundyclown   Oct-11-04 12:09 PM   #99 
  - kerry warns  wildmanj   Oct-10-04 08:44 PM   #63 
  - I want specifics from Kerry.  CBHagman   Oct-10-04 09:44 PM   #68 
  - He's busy propagating the same LIE  flying_blind   Oct-10-04 09:54 PM   #71 
  - Kerry would pick up where Clinton left off  paulk   Oct-11-04 01:44 PM   #101 
     - Because his (and everyone's) Likud Masters said so <eom>  flying_blind   Oct-11-04 06:24 PM   #102 
        - trite  paulk   Oct-11-04 10:23 PM   #105 
  - meet the new boss...  mike_c   Oct-10-04 10:03 PM   #73 
  - strike two  Rabelais   Oct-10-04 10:11 PM   #77 
  - Is Kerry NeoCon?  Axel   Oct-10-04 10:45 PM   #81 
  - Irrefutably, he is clearly the less evil of the two choices  flying_blind   Oct-11-04 05:59 AM   #88 
  - No, Kerry is a neolib  IndianaGreen   Oct-11-04 10:24 AM   #96 
  - Strike one?  oregon_dem1   Oct-10-04 10:55 PM   #82 
  - strike one  Cheswick   Oct-11-04 07:37 AM   #90 
  - lol, yes forget domestice policy  Cheswick   Oct-11-04 07:33 AM   #89 
  - and ,,,,,  number6   Oct-10-04 11:08 PM   #83 
  - Republicans, Democrats, and Israel all love Arafat.  BillyBunter   Oct-11-04 02:03 AM   #86 
  - BINGO  southlandshari   Oct-11-04 10:10 AM   #93 
  - Kerry RRRRRRRRAWWWWWWWWWKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Jim Sagle   Oct-11-04 02:04 AM   #87 
  - Great, Do We Really Have To Wait Twenty Years  voted4wellstone   Oct-11-04 07:59 AM   #92 
  - So who will Kerry deal with? Hamas? Islamic Jihad? Hizbollah?  IndianaGreen   Oct-11-04 10:12 AM   #94 
  - He will deal with Sharon and let Arafat sleep in the bed he has made.  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-11-04 11:32 PM   #106 
     - He will sleep with the war criminal Sharon  IndianaGreen   Oct-12-04 07:41 AM   #116 
        - Sharon has never been convicted of any 'war crimes'  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-12-04 08:48 AM   #120 
           - Neither has Bush, but he's still a war criminal...  Violet_Crumble   Oct-12-04 08:49 AM   #121 
  - Arafat is irrelevant.  Gyre   Oct-11-04 11:44 AM   #98 
  - Not the Right Answers to Middle East Question  IndianaGreen   Oct-11-04 12:16 PM   #100 
     - War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser  flying_blind   Oct-12-04 01:01 AM   #108 
        - Americans should not shed their blood for any shitty little country  IndianaGreen   Oct-12-04 07:31 AM   #114 
  - Geez Kerry, why can't you deal with a nice guy like Arafat?  Bush was AWOL   Oct-12-04 01:08 AM   #109 
     - There is a post answering your claim citing fair.org  flying_blind   Oct-12-04 01:21 AM   #112 
     - You obviously haven't heard about the phony generous offer by Barak  IndianaGreen   Oct-12-04 07:45 AM   #117 
     - If he can deal with a nice guy like Sharon...  Violet_Crumble   Oct-12-04 09:01 AM   #122 
 

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