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35. Almost forgot....
Richard M. Daley - current mayor of Chicago and one of the prominent national profiles in the Democratic Party - is the son of the former Chicago mayor Richard J. Daley. You know, the belligerent anti-Semite who ordered his police force to bash in the heads of young anti-war protestors outside the 1968 Democratic national convention. The elder Daley was often called a "Nazi" by his critics. His son, however, has won a hard-earned reputation for fairness and openess with people of all colors and creeds.

So, should we throw out the son because his father was a corrupt evil prick?
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  -Records: Schwarzenegger's father was member of Nazi storm troops Newsjock  Aug-24-03 02:29 PM   #0 
  - Fortunately, Gustav is not running for governor  DavidD   Aug-24-03 02:32 PM   #1 
  - Do you think that being raised by a brutal Nazi SA officer  felix19   Aug-24-03 02:41 PM   #4 
  - Young people also rebel  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 02:43 PM   #6 
  - Well said, Muddleoftheroad  DavidD   Aug-24-03 03:17 PM   #17 
  - 1) What is "slander" in my post; 2) Please describe A. Schwarzenegger's  felix19   Aug-24-03 05:17 PM   #29 
  - Bullshit  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 05:59 PM   #33 
     - Clearly you have not taken the trouble to educate yourself on  felix19   Aug-24-03 06:38 PM   #40 
     - Actually, I follow the general issue  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 07:24 PM   #46 
     - I say that if slanders helps the wrong man lose  stumblnrose   Aug-25-03 11:31 PM   #123 
  - He didn't seem to be rebelling when he toastedKurt Waldheim (nazi)  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-25-03 06:56 PM   #114 
     - And the entire Kennedy clan was there toasting Waldheim...  IndianaGreen   Aug-25-03 07:25 PM   #117 
  - Valid question.  bobthedrummer   Aug-24-03 03:44 PM   #24 
  - Too darn tempting not to photoshop...  Billy_Pilgrim   Aug-24-03 05:07 PM   #28 
  - Arnold is not responsible for his father  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 06:31 PM   #38 
  - Ah but oddly  felix19   Aug-24-03 07:24 PM   #45 
  - Philosophy  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 07:25 PM   #47 
     - It is perfectly legitimate to bring up anything about a  felix19   Aug-24-03 07:42 PM   #50 
        - Should we then discuss how many girls Davis had sex with in high school?  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 08:45 PM   #54 
           - I repeat...  felix19   Aug-24-03 09:59 PM   #56 
              - You relish distorting what I wrote about Bustamante as much...  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 11:24 PM   #64 
                 - Your posts  felix19   Aug-24-03 11:36 PM   #71 
  - He was just a small licentious light in his father's eyes  BonjourUSA   Aug-26-03 09:25 AM   #138 
  - Yes, especially when he tells the media.....  smirkymonkey   Aug-25-03 04:05 PM   #107 
  - yes, but  seekthetruth   Aug-24-03 03:24 PM   #19 
  - Really?  spinbaby   Aug-24-03 03:31 PM   #22 
     - are you running for office?  seekthetruth   Aug-24-03 07:37 PM   #49 
        - And what if she was running?...  fujiyama   Aug-25-03 04:52 AM   #80 
           - who's "we"?  seekthetruth   Aug-25-03 09:03 AM   #87 
  - The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it?  corarose   Aug-24-03 10:24 PM   #58 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-03 11:28 PM   #68 
        - better knock off the personal attacks, bud!  seekthetruth   Aug-25-03 09:06 AM   #88 
  - bush's grandfather made big bucks...  JPace   Aug-24-03 02:33 PM   #2 
  - "Bush is not a Nazi" Flash  LeighAnn   Aug-24-03 03:39 PM   #23 
  - And in America, Arnold becomes a Republican....  onehandle   Aug-24-03 02:37 PM   #3 
  - Kinda proves Nazis and Republicans are spiritual kin  fed2dneck   Aug-25-03 03:25 PM   #106 
  - Jesus's father was a carpenter  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 02:42 PM   #5 
  - Agreed...I'm not responsible for the sins of my father  khephra   Aug-24-03 02:47 PM   #7 
  - Don't be naive, Kef  Eloriel   Aug-24-03 03:13 PM   #14 
     - Undemocratic  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 04:46 PM   #27 
        - No. Legal does not automtically equal pro-democracy  Eloriel   Aug-24-03 05:51 PM   #31 
        - The people voted  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 06:02 PM   #34 
        - Ah, the heart of the problem  Eloriel   Aug-25-03 10:26 AM   #92 
           - constitutional  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-26-03 06:46 AM   #133 
        - Everything the Nazis did was legal.  Sterling   Aug-25-03 05:22 PM   #111 
        - I find myself in very rare agreement with Muddle  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 06:34 PM   #39 
        - LOL  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 11:29 PM   #69 
        - Don't be so quicK  fujiyama   Aug-25-03 05:08 AM   #82 
           - Morality?  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-25-03 07:01 AM   # 
           - Morality?  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-25-03 07:01 AM   #85 
              - Legal maybe, but fair and democratic?  fujiyama   Aug-26-03 02:04 AM   #127 
  - Last time i checked...  ret5hd   Aug-24-03 02:49 PM   #9 
     - The "sins of the fathers" bit is one of the reasons  khephra   Aug-24-03 02:52 PM   #11 
     - me either...  ret5hd   Aug-24-03 03:10 PM   #13 
     - The invisible cloud guy  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 04:43 PM   #25 
  - My father was a Captain in the Mob.....  liberalnurse   Aug-24-03 02:49 PM   #8 
  - Made.  htuttle   Aug-24-03 02:51 PM   #10 
  - I depends are you full or part?  corarose   Aug-24-03 10:38 PM   #60 
  - Careful...  Zhade   Aug-24-03 02:55 PM   #12 
  - It's not just a question of guilt by association  starroute   Aug-24-03 03:17 PM   #15 
  - He's a body builder for goodness sake  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-24-03 04:44 PM   #26 
  - What about membership in La MEChA?  Character Assassin   Aug-24-03 06:08 PM   #36 
     - We are discussing that very topic in GD (Bustamante)  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 07:02 PM   #41 
        - I'm already there.....  Character Assassin   Aug-24-03 07:18 PM   #44 
  - I hope you'll read my post in response to Kephra above  Eloriel   Aug-24-03 03:17 PM   #16 
     - Just saying be careful. I don't trust Arnold further than I can throw him.  Zhade   Aug-24-03 03:31 PM   #21 
  - Why this is important...  Devils Advocate NZ   Aug-24-03 03:19 PM   #18 
  - He was also a military policeman in northern the front near Leningrad  PurityOfEssence   Aug-24-03 03:31 PM   #20 
  - The influence of his father on A. Schwarzenegger is an important  felix19   Aug-24-03 05:36 PM   #30 
     - Yes, we're in accord on this one  PurityOfEssence   Aug-24-03 07:11 PM   #43 
     - There is a difference between Nietzsche and the Nazis  slack   Aug-24-03 07:56 PM   #51 
        - I think you're showing that no one really knows squat about  felix19   Aug-24-03 11:14 PM   #63 
           - If arnold is friends with haider  Bertrand   Aug-24-03 11:27 PM   #66 
  - Non-issue for me...  lib71   Aug-24-03 05:57 PM   #32 
  - Is that the issue?  felix19   Aug-24-03 07:07 PM   #42 
     - Felix, I live in CA...  lib71   Aug-25-03 01:39 AM   #76 
        - Yes well...  felix19   Aug-25-03 08:50 AM   #86 
        - good post!  seekthetruth   Aug-25-03 10:48 AM   #96 
        - Good enough for Rabbi Hier, good enough for me...  lib71   Aug-25-03 12:32 PM   #99 
           - One word: "Flypaper"....  felix19   Aug-25-03 01:16 PM   #100 
              - Please explain  lib71   Aug-25-03 01:27 PM   #102 
        - -  canigeta   Aug-26-03 03:14 AM   #128 
  - Almost forgot....  lib71   Aug-24-03 06:05 PM   #35 
  - I have to defend Schwarzenegger on this  Kellanved   Aug-24-03 06:19 PM   #37 
  - Welcome to the sanitizing spin!  PATRICK   Aug-25-03 02:14 PM   #105 
  - Who cares? He won't win anyway.  truthisfreedom   Aug-24-03 07:35 PM   #48 
  - I agree that GOPers have launched an anti-democratic campaign...  Q   Aug-24-03 07:59 PM   #52 
  - GOP/Freeper mentality - Attacks on ancient history like  zbdent   Aug-24-03 08:36 PM   #53 
  - Good to see most DUers rejecting this Nazi thing  MacCovern   Aug-24-03 08:47 PM   #55 
  - Yes, it is comforting isn't it?  felix19   Aug-24-03 10:04 PM   #57 
  - We need to get Holy Joe's opinion on this matter in front of cameras  corarose   Aug-24-03 10:27 PM   #59 
  - Only a demagogue would bring Lieberman into this discussion  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 11:31 PM   #70 
  - Arnold has no "D" behind his name, therefore this is a non-issue.  Dr Fate   Aug-24-03 10:44 PM   #61 
  - I wondered when this thread was gonna happen  darkstar   Aug-24-03 11:00 PM   #62 
  - What are the important issues  felix19   Aug-24-03 11:26 PM   #65 
     - It is a non-issue because  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 11:41 PM   #72 
     - I repeat  felix19   Aug-24-03 11:57 PM   #74 
        - I repeat  darkstar   Aug-25-03 02:07 AM   #78 
        - You may have noted I was responding to post #72  felix19   Aug-25-03 06:49 PM   #113 
        - I agree w/ you completely and...  smirkymonkey   Aug-25-03 04:33 PM   #109 
           - We're seeing some...  felix19   Aug-25-03 05:42 PM   #112 
     - Oh Felix....  lib71   Aug-25-03 01:59 AM   #77 
     - Arnold's father and Wilhelm - two different things  fujiyama   Aug-25-03 05:32 AM   #83 
        - don't play dirty?  seekthetruth   Aug-25-03 10:45 AM   #93 
           - I don't expect you to...  fujiyama   Aug-26-03 01:32 AM   #125 
  - Kurt Waldheim invited to Arnold's wedding.  Dover   Aug-24-03 11:28 PM   #67 
  - And the entire Kennedy clan was there as well  IndianaGreen   Aug-24-03 11:46 PM   #73 
     - Did Joe or Jack  lazarus   Aug-25-03 01:06 AM   #75 
     - Joe was a criminal: he smuggled alcohol during prohibtion.  Character Assassin   Aug-25-03 07:03 PM   #116 
     - good point about joe kennedy...  fujiyama   Aug-25-03 05:43 AM   #84 
     - Don't forget the venerable Walt Disney  IndianaGreen   Aug-25-03 07:30 PM   #118 
     - Do you have a source on father Joe  9215   Aug-25-03 09:32 AM   #91 
     - Kennedy's anti-Semitism and appeasement of Hitler is well documented  IndianaGreen   Aug-25-03 11:41 PM   #124 
        - Something changed the Kennedys  9215   Aug-26-03 06:39 AM   #131 
           - The Kennedy sons were a bit more complex than Joseph Kennedy  IndianaGreen   Aug-26-03 08:17 PM   #161 
              - The difference  9215   Aug-27-03 03:37 PM   #165 
     - But you still aren't separating ARNOLD'S actions which were to offer  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-25-03 06:59 PM   #115 
  - Why not talk about grandfathers?  HaThorAtor   Aug-25-03 02:47 AM   #79 
  - thank you!  seekthetruth   Aug-25-03 10:46 AM   #94 
  - the SA?  JohnKleeb   Aug-25-03 05:01 AM   #81 
  - i think the SA did survive the Rohm purge.  TheBigGuy   Aug-25-03 04:18 PM   #108 
  - That PROVES Arnold is too liberal!  Kanzeon   Aug-25-03 09:17 AM   #89 
  - This is just more evidence of the long  9215   Aug-25-03 09:27 AM   #90 
  - finally  seekthetruth   Aug-25-03 10:47 AM   #95 
  - Yea, its like  9215   Aug-25-03 08:40 PM   #119 
  - Don't forget Joe Kennedy and the Nazis!  IndianaGreen   Aug-25-03 08:58 PM   #120 
     - Please see my response above.  9215   Aug-26-03 06:43 AM   #132 
  - Heil everybody...  Patriot_Spear   Aug-25-03 11:49 AM   #97 
  - Genetics helped determine his party choice?  nn2004   Aug-25-03 01:27 PM   #101 
     - maybe...  Patriot_Spear   Aug-25-03 04:45 PM   #110 
     - As Gilbert & Sullivan said...  Wednesdays   Aug-26-03 10:52 AM   #139 
  - How many DUers had repubican parents?  nn2004   Aug-25-03 11:57 AM   #98 
  - My parents are card-carrying members  TSElliott   Aug-25-03 01:44 PM   #103 
  - Guy can't even speak: trite TV ads obviously lip-sync'd ...  ichiro99   Aug-25-03 11:24 PM   #122 
  - Well Arnie was like a really nasty storntrooper in T1  genius   Aug-25-03 01:44 PM   #104 
  - ..whatever it takes  Starpass   Aug-25-03 09:18 PM   #121 
  - Atleast your honest!  fujiyama   Aug-26-03 01:50 AM   #126 
     - Wait a sec- who said this was a lie?  Patriot_Spear   Aug-26-03 08:31 AM   #136 
     - Never said it was a lie...  fujiyama   Aug-26-03 02:55 PM   #148 
     - The only people fretting over this being a BIG issue  felix19   Aug-26-03 09:06 AM   #137 
        - I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth  lib71   Aug-26-03 12:17 PM   #143 
           - Your own words are sufficient  felix19   Aug-26-03 02:25 PM   #146 
              - Quack-quack  lib71   Aug-26-03 10:48 PM   #162 
  - Here's his pa right here...  dutchdemocrat   Aug-26-03 05:40 AM   #129 
  - Snappy uniform too  slackmaster   Aug-26-03 11:00 AM   #140 
     - The racism is wide open, and sickening  felix19   Aug-26-03 11:28 AM   #141 
  - If we open up these can of worms than not only will our lives  Sweetpea   Aug-26-03 05:48 AM   #130 
  - -  canigeta   Aug-26-03 08:09 AM   #134 
  - Does this mean Uday and Qusay could have been governor too?  Patriot_Spear   Aug-26-03 08:23 AM   #135 
     - Maybe....  californication   Aug-26-03 12:25 PM   #144 
        - ...Brown Shirt AND Nazi Storm Trooper?!  Patriot_Spear   Aug-26-03 03:38 PM   #151 
           - Well...  californication   Aug-26-03 04:09 PM   #153 
  - Is poor, vulnerable Arnie responsible for HIS OWN NAZI sympathies?  robbedvoter   Aug-26-03 11:45 AM   #142 
     - What crap  Character Assassin   Aug-26-03 01:09 PM   #145 
     - hey  none   Aug-26-03 02:33 PM   #147 
     - Who is felix?  Character Assassin   Aug-26-03 03:30 PM   #150 
     - Did you notice the article I provided (text, link?) The Arnie Fan club  robbedvoter   Aug-26-03 04:08 PM   #152 
        - Your puerile attempt to justify your labels is transparent  Character Assassin   Aug-26-03 04:14 PM   #154 
           - Sorry you don't like my link. Your passion for Arnie's nazi heritage  robbedvoter   Aug-26-03 04:26 PM   #155 
              - That is exactly that kindergarden-level crap that I was talking about  Character Assassin   Aug-26-03 04:37 PM   #156 
                 - Trying to live up to your handle (but not when it comes to Arnie)  robbedvoter   Aug-26-03 04:59 PM   #157 
                    - Why would I waste time doing that?  Character Assassin   Aug-26-03 05:21 PM   #158 
                    - Why do you keep posting? To show me?  robbedvoter   Aug-26-03 05:38 PM   #159 
                    - As long as you make statements like that, I'll respond.  Character Assassin   Aug-26-03 05:44 PM   #160 
                    - As you believe in guilt by association  delete_bush   Aug-27-03 12:30 AM   #163 
                    - LOL  lib71   Aug-27-03 06:16 PM   #170 
                    - He keeps posting  9215   Aug-27-03 04:10 PM   #168 
                       - No, I care about accuracy and not giving fodder to this site's enemies  Character Assassin   Aug-27-03 04:25 PM   #169 
                          - See my reply to Lib71 below  9215   Aug-27-03 08:50 PM   #174 
                    - Jasocal by another name?  9215   Aug-27-03 03:52 PM   #167 
                    - Good reply:  9215   Aug-27-03 03:48 PM   #166 
                       - Kernel of truth?  lib71   Aug-27-03 06:24 PM   #171 
                          - The article by John Harlow cited by  9215   Aug-27-03 08:45 PM   #173 
     - I agree with you, but what I want to know is....  smirkymonkey   Aug-26-03 02:56 PM   #149 
     - sigh...  lib71   Aug-27-03 02:48 PM   #164 
     - And, that my friend, is the ultimate question.  robbedvoter   Aug-27-03 10:37 PM   #176 
     - What a pantload of complete horse crap  LogicTrueFalse   Aug-27-03 06:49 PM   #172 
        - What a disgusting cause to attack! Why oh, why defend Arnold  robbedvoter   Aug-27-03 10:35 PM   #175 
 

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