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Thu Oct-13-11 03:02 PM
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| 81. You can take that to the bank. |
| -We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies |
meow2u3 |
Oct-13-11 09:55 AM |
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It isnt just New York City. |
Scruffy1 |
Oct-13-11 10:01 AM |
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Yes it does.... |
midnight |
Oct-13-11 10:38 AM |
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Yes, 60 Minutes had an episode covering false drug arrests in Tulia, Texas sometime back |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-13-11 11:11 AM |
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I lived in Brooklyn 30 years ago and |
RoccoR5955 |
Oct-13-11 02:01 PM |
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And in more than just drug cases, too |
jmowreader |
Oct-13-11 05:08 PM |
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first damned thing I thought too. I know there's drugballs all over, yes, but... |
Divine Discontent |
Oct-13-11 07:40 PM |
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+100 Exactly |
Xicano |
Oct-13-11 08:53 PM |
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Yep. |
DeSwiss |
Oct-13-11 09:06 PM |
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With this detectives statement shouldn't all minor drug offenders be released? |
sarcasmo |
Oct-13-11 10:03 AM |
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for the most part |
blueknight |
Oct-13-11 10:05 AM |
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What do you expect? They are trained as liars from day one. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Oct-13-11 10:17 AM |
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Quite a broad brush you're painting with. |
SnowCritter |
Oct-13-11 10:52 AM |
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Well you know DU |
trumad |
Oct-13-11 12:17 PM |
#48 |
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The ones that aren't pigs are still protecting the ones that are. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-13-11 12:30 PM |
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Which, in my opinion, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-14-11 01:34 AM |
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The good cops cover for the bad cops. |
Iggo |
Oct-13-11 01:54 PM |
#68 |
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Your brush is broader and better |
liberation |
Oct-13-11 02:02 PM |
#71 |
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Every narc is a liar and a fraud. |
theaocp |
Oct-13-11 02:55 PM |
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To the extent ANY of them perpetuate the "blue wall of silence" ... |
markpkessinger |
Oct-13-11 02:58 PM |
#79 |
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Speaking from personal experience and dating back to my teen years I am firmly in the corner of, |
Citizen Worker |
Oct-13-11 03:36 PM |
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only because |
blueknight |
Oct-13-11 06:36 PM |
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"they're the most honest and forthright people you'll ever meet...." |
Dennis Donovan |
Oct-13-11 05:11 PM |
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I know, eh? What clownish thinking. |
provis99 |
Oct-13-11 08:44 PM |
#113 |
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That's right. |
ronnie624 |
Oct-14-11 01:38 AM |
#129 |
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That doesn't make sense to me |
Juche |
Oct-13-11 05:45 PM |
#97 |
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LOL. |
tabasco |
Oct-13-11 07:11 PM |
#104 |
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Just wondering your relation with them |
ArcticFox |
Oct-13-11 07:34 PM |
#106 |
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My father worked with the police for many years and eventually became a part time cop. |
1monster |
Oct-13-11 08:55 PM |
#115 |
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Correct! As a trivial example, I got pulled over a few years back... |
Prana69 |
Oct-13-11 11:01 PM |
#120 |
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Something like that happened to me too |
walerosco |
Oct-14-11 12:22 AM |
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I think the fact that our police force doesn't act like Central America's |
caseymoz |
Oct-13-11 11:59 AM |
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I would care to distinquish that |
Newest Reality |
Oct-13-11 10:15 AM |
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You lost me. Rehabilitation of corrupt cops is what's called for. The people DIDN'T USE DRUGS |
saras |
Oct-13-11 10:24 AM |
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That was an aside in response to post #2, if that helps. |
Newest Reality |
Oct-13-11 10:33 AM |
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I get they were framed. The drug laws need changed. |
sarcasmo |
Oct-13-11 11:47 AM |
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In other words, drugs YOU approve of. |
Dutchmaster |
Oct-13-11 04:40 PM |
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Your logic is, "it's bad because it's really illegal otherwise it wouldn't be really illegal |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 04:05 AM |
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i know from first hand use that you can use the drugs you listed |
reggie the dog |
Oct-14-11 07:36 AM |
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Everything happening last week, and this week, in California |
truedelphi |
Oct-13-11 02:12 PM |
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"even despite the electoral wishes of an entire populace" |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 02:59 PM |
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I was prepared to have to fight one of the |
truedelphi |
Oct-13-11 03:14 PM |
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Unfortunately it's not just the private prisons that are making tons of money on the system |
stillwaiting |
Oct-13-11 03:36 PM |
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textiles and oil too |
reggie the dog |
Oct-14-11 07:01 AM |
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They need to serve the time that all the innocent people spent in prison. |
msanthrope |
Oct-13-11 10:05 AM |
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And I bet most of the people who fell in their net weren't anglo-americans. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Oct-13-11 10:06 AM |
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You can take that to the bank. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 03:02 PM |
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Of course not! It's all just a coincidence!! |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-13-11 03:09 PM |
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white middle class probably not, white working class yes |
reggie the dog |
Oct-14-11 07:26 AM |
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In which case...... |
Uben |
Oct-13-11 10:17 AM |
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The Knapp Commission, the Mollen Commission and yet some people still haven't learned... |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 10:18 AM |
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When they brought asset forfeiture into it, then you know they would have quotas. |
caseymoz |
Oct-13-11 10:24 AM |
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Came here to say this. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-13-11 10:25 AM |
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+1 /nt |
October |
Oct-13-11 12:27 PM |
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It's only logical. |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 03:03 PM |
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Next you'll be telling us there are quotas for parking tickets... n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 10:38 AM |
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But it's not much like parking quotas, really. |
caseymoz |
Oct-13-11 11:28 AM |
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DING DING DING! |
KamaAina |
Oct-13-11 11:50 AM |
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In other news... |
Iggo |
Oct-13-11 10:33 AM |
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I am shocked, just shocked, that this happened in America! lol |
krabigirl |
Oct-13-11 10:44 AM |
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Man! I bet the private prison industry is shitting bricks... |
KansDem |
Oct-13-11 10:44 AM |
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Indeed. |
LuvNewcastle |
Oct-13-11 02:49 PM |
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+1, Cui Bono is always the question. |
napoleon_in_rags |
Oct-13-11 09:53 PM |
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We need to get rid of the controlled substance act. |
iscooterliberally |
Oct-13-11 10:50 AM |
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not just kicking down doors |
newspeak |
Oct-14-11 10:58 AM |
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There's a memorial to these folks on Drug War Rant |
iscooterliberally |
Oct-14-11 02:16 PM |
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Drug War is simply another avenue for elites to corrupt government, police and society -- |
defendandprotect |
Oct-13-11 10:51 AM |
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Just like drug testing has been used to get rid of workers the... |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-13-11 11:28 AM |
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We're reliving the early days of Germany and intimidation of citizens ..... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-13-11 12:24 PM |
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But if they were convicted by a jury, they must be guilty! |
Kingofalldems |
Oct-13-11 11:03 AM |
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The Inevitable Result |
thetimchannel |
Oct-13-11 11:03 AM |
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Bombshell testimony? We'd see that all the time in old movies and teevee shows. |
valerief |
Oct-13-11 11:08 AM |
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I'll bet you any amount of money, that New York is not the only city |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-13-11 11:12 AM |
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Shocked! Shocked, I say! |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-13-11 11:17 AM |
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I'll go way out on a limb here and say that this revelation |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 11:23 AM |
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Quotas for the private prisons? n/t |
malaise |
Oct-13-11 11:25 AM |
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New York doesn't have privatized prisons. n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 05:30 PM |
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It is true that New York does not have private prisons on its soil, however |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 11:09 PM |
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The article in question concertned arrests by New York City Police, not the federal government. n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-14-11 12:04 AM |
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So you are saying; no drug crimes, for which the NYPD make arrests; |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 11:21 AM |
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I keep saying this, but the war on drugs = fascism |
Taverner |
Oct-13-11 11:30 AM |
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I have a slight disagreement with you....I think it is their "owners" |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 11:54 AM |
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Yes, but the Nuremberg Defense doesn't cut it for me |
Taverner |
Oct-13-11 11:57 AM |
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Excellent point. They are the soldiers, The owners I was referring to |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 11:59 AM |
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I agree. Knowingly ruining lives by false drug charges is unforgivable. |
October |
Oct-13-11 12:30 PM |
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I think you've got a point, as well, but... |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-13-11 02:07 PM |
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yup ! |
russspeakeasy |
Oct-13-11 04:08 PM |
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So I would like to hear how you plan to replace the cops |
Confusious |
Oct-13-11 02:40 PM |
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How about actually having cops keep our society ordered? Instead of chasing hippies... |
Taverner |
Oct-13-11 03:06 PM |
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I think they do |
Confusious |
Oct-13-11 07:28 PM |
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How about we just stop having them waste time on what consenting adults are doing w/their own bodies |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 04:06 AM |
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They're charged with enforcing the laws of the country |
Confusious |
Oct-14-11 02:18 PM |
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The laws should be changed. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 02:58 PM |
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I don't think they have that much latitude |
Confusious |
Oct-14-11 05:55 PM |
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We must elect a congress that is intelligent enough to change these |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 11:49 AM |
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which laws would those be? |
Confusious |
Oct-14-11 02:20 PM |
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What an inane question. nwat |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 08:45 PM |
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If you knew, |
Confusious |
Oct-15-11 12:45 AM |
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Thank you for the message |
ArcticFox |
Oct-13-11 07:46 PM |
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Draconian drug law nourishes unbridled fascism and makes it ok. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 11:31 AM |
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I wonder if part of this is sour apples on the detectives part and if hes only saying this |
cstanleytech |
Oct-13-11 11:45 AM |
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lol.... |
fascisthunter |
Oct-13-11 12:19 PM |
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Yeah...thats it. Committing felony perjury for the sake of revenge. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 01:50 PM |
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I'm not saying thats what he is doing nor did I say I believe it |
cstanleytech |
Oct-13-11 04:08 PM |
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It's just a slight bit farther jump to believe drugs are illegal |
Trillo |
Oct-13-11 11:46 AM |
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Maybe not full on tinfoil... |
Iggo |
Oct-13-11 01:51 PM |
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Or that they can make ridiculous profits by BOTH bringing em into the country AND "fighting" them? |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-14-11 04:12 AM |
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It is far past time to legalize drugs. |
slay |
Oct-13-11 11:50 AM |
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Just more of the out of control, Police Militia... |
SoapBox |
Oct-13-11 11:50 AM |
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I pray we reach 'the tipping point' before more lives are destroyed |
duhneece |
Oct-13-11 11:53 AM |
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New York's Finest! |
LiberalFighter |
Oct-13-11 11:54 AM |
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Not surprising. n/t |
ingac70 |
Oct-13-11 12:08 PM |
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Only a few bad apples ....again and again. |
L0oniX |
Oct-13-11 12:14 PM |
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+1 /nt |
October |
Oct-13-11 12:31 PM |
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Oh dear, there must be a few good apples left in this barrel... |
GliderGuider |
Oct-13-11 01:07 PM |
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More like, only a few bad apple trees, or orchards. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 01:59 PM |
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the cops are just a government-supported organized crime ring. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-13-11 12:28 PM |
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and to think there are still people |
shanti |
Oct-13-11 12:36 PM |
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Fucking. Pigs. |
kath |
Oct-13-11 12:48 PM |
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Hey, coppers!!! There's always Wall Street and the Big Banks... |
KansDem |
Oct-13-11 01:07 PM |
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This is our great criminal justice system.. |
Stuart G |
Oct-13-11 01:08 PM |
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Another victory in the insane War on Drugs. |
Flatulo |
Oct-13-11 01:14 PM |
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they don't want to clear prison space - prisoners are free labor nt |
TBF |
Oct-13-11 01:21 PM |
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We do the things that sound good to a majority of people. |
No Elephants |
Oct-13-11 11:34 PM |
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Why am I NOT surprised. This crap and similar goes on all over USA, Inc. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Oct-13-11 01:24 PM |
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Well quell supreeeeeeeez. |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-13-11 01:40 PM |
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War on Drugs = Opportunity |
get the red out |
Oct-13-11 01:46 PM |
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The brain dead compassion-less republicans don't give a shit-Fuck others is their cold-hearted motto |
GreenTea |
Oct-13-11 02:44 PM |
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I knew this happened but I did not know |
Enthusiast |
Oct-13-11 02:50 PM |
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I'm sure the flourishing privatized prison industry has nothing to do with this. |
Blue Owl |
Oct-13-11 03:18 PM |
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And you'd be right as New York doesn't have privatized prisons. n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Oct-13-11 05:29 PM |
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K & R (n/t) |
bread_and_roses |
Oct-13-11 05:19 PM |
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So disturbing |
democrank |
Oct-13-11 05:57 PM |
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The war on drugs has cost us how much? |
PuffedMica |
Oct-13-11 06:08 PM |
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So not much different than Ukraine then. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Oct-13-11 06:10 PM |
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Great job, NYPD. No wonder you're protecting the 1%. |
Dont call me Shirley |
Oct-13-11 06:33 PM |
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I'm sure this is a common practice elsewhere, too.... |
mike_c |
Oct-13-11 07:08 PM |
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I was about to write "un-fucking-believeable" but it really isn't. nt |
Deep13 |
Oct-13-11 07:59 PM |
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Insanity |
Bloodinout |
Oct-13-11 08:05 PM |
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In Tulsa Ok they've had to throw out many cases and release something like 40 or so people so far |
madokie |
Oct-13-11 08:12 PM |
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Cops are a necessary evil. Thats the way its been for over a hundred years. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-13-11 08:21 PM |
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At this point I'd rather live in a world with cops as to live in a world without cops |
madokie |
Oct-14-11 05:38 AM |
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I agree with you, but I do my best not to have any interaction with any cop. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-14-11 12:34 PM |
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As far as walking over to the other side of the street if need be or chance avails itself |
madokie |
Oct-14-11 03:21 PM |
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That does not mean it is necessary to condone their evil /nt |
Dragonfli |
Oct-14-11 05:39 AM |
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Did you read my post? I, certainly, don't condone the evil that they do. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-14-11 12:38 PM |
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fabricated? |
jowsybart |
Oct-13-11 09:25 PM |
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I find it completely disgusting. The organizational culture needs an overhaul... |
Historic NY |
Oct-13-11 09:33 PM |
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If you made your living as a cop, day in and day out for 40 to 50 years, give or take, |
No Elephants |
Oct-13-11 11:53 PM |
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K & R |
walerosco |
Oct-13-11 11:56 PM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Oct-14-11 12:43 AM |
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K&R. It was only a matter of time until someone broke the code of silence. |
Ignis |
Oct-14-11 01:47 AM |
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Land of the Free? |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Oct-14-11 02:30 AM |
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Geez, ALL COPS are bad?? |
DiverDave |
Oct-14-11 05:00 AM |
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Everything's corrupt here. Schools, cops, city gov't. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Oct-14-11 05:32 AM |
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I think that all law enforcement should have to take a |
newspeak |
Oct-14-11 01:05 PM |
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Republi cons are running roughshod over this country |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-14-11 01:40 PM |
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the War on Drugs in action - this is a systemic failure |
RainDog |
Oct-14-11 05:12 PM |
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clean as a hounds tooth. |
miyazaki |
Oct-15-11 11:34 AM |
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Billion-dollar prison industry... |
clinton4life2011 |
Oct-15-11 01:58 PM |
#159 |