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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:33 PM
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30. And Some Local Residents
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 05:33 PM by iamjoy
From what I understand, some residents who lived in the area didn't like it because the homeless would gather there (for free food, of course) but then, without adequate public restrooms, many would just relieve themselves on people's lawns. You wouldn't like that if it was your house. And I guess some folks are scared of vagrants, thinking they might do them harm and got nervous when dozens would gather.

Don't assume everyone living near downtown is rich. And it's not such a stretch for people to think that some vagrants could be dangerous. Sure some are just nice folks down on their luck, but some are mentally ill. And some mentally ill are dangerous. Of course, your squeaky clean next door neighbor could be a closet psycho, but we never think that, do we? We're trained to be suspicious of what seems like it doesn't belong.

I sympathize with the residents, but think this ordinance is stupid. Why not really try to help the homeless (and mentally ill) rather than passing punitive rules that do nothing to solve the problem?

I have a friend who used to live near downtown. When she put out her trash, she noticed that sometimes the homeless would go digging through it for something to eat. So, she started wrapping the food she was discarding in foil and putting it on top of the garbage. Then it was easier for the homeless to find something to eat and made it less likely she had to deal with her trash scattered across her lawn from people digging through it. Compassionate and smart.
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  -Three arrested, accused of illegally feeding homeless EvilMonsanto  Jun-02-11 03:48 PM   #0 
  - The poor are supposed to hurry up and die  cutlassmama   Jun-02-11 03:53 PM   #1 
  - FEEDING PEOPLE!!!!???? OMFG!!! What next????!!  plumbob   Jun-02-11 03:53 PM   #2 
  - I guess if I had to go to jail,  Jackpine Radical   Jun-02-11 03:53 PM   #3 
  - "McHenry wants to stay in jail and let the legal process take its course, Coleman said."  Boojatta   Jun-02-11 04:24 PM   #19 
  - Possible 60 days in jail for feeding someone who was hungry?  hamsterjill   Jun-02-11 03:54 PM   #4 
  - So now they have to feed the guy they arrested  dixiegrrrrl   Jun-02-11 08:53 PM   #40 
  - No  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:32 AM   #54 
     - Your own post makes it clear the arrest is for feeding the homeless.  JackRiddler   Jun-03-11 07:25 PM   #60 
        - Once again slowly  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 10:41 PM   #61 
  - What a hateful ordinance. What hateful people for  aquamarina   Jun-02-11 03:55 PM   #5 
  - At least the police are civilized; can't say that for city council/mayor.  elleng   Jun-02-11 03:56 PM   #6 
  - The actions of the police make me think they are not all that in favor  jwirr   Jun-02-11 04:40 PM   #21 
     - That struck me too. They made the arrests after the food was distributed.  Jackpine Radical   Jun-02-11 06:36 PM   #36 
  - The city council members need to be fined and jail.  LiberalFighter   Jun-02-11 03:56 PM   #7 
  - As silly as this rule is, they were not arrested for feeding a hungry person  arcane1   Jun-02-11 04:00 PM   #8 
  - Why not  Shireling   Jun-02-11 04:07 PM   #11 
  - According to the article, they can get permits to do this n/t  arcane1   Jun-02-11 04:10 PM   #12 
     - I'd be curious...  nebenaube   Jun-03-11 06:55 AM   #56 
     - how much do you want to bet they tried?  ixion   Jun-03-11 02:24 PM   #58 
  - You are correct, but  hamsterjill   Jun-02-11 04:18 PM   #16 
  - Except they had other completely legal options  cstanleytech   Jun-02-11 06:08 PM   #34 
  - What if 30 people feed 90 birds?  Boojatta   Jun-02-11 04:22 PM   #18 
  - Simple solution then  ohnoyoudidnt   Jun-02-11 05:25 PM   #28 
  - True enough.  cstanleytech   Jun-02-11 06:03 PM   #32 
  - You kidding? I'd be looking forward to my Day In Court to make a statement.  no_hypocrisy   Jun-02-11 04:00 PM   #9 
  - yep.  Ship of Fools   Jun-02-11 04:03 PM   #10 
  - Once again, they went intending to be arrested.  quaker bill   Jun-02-11 04:15 PM   #13 
  - good for you and good for them  HankyDubs   Jun-02-11 04:28 PM   #20 
  - Meanwhile, some newspapers are going bankrupt.  Boojatta   Jun-02-11 04:45 PM   #22 
  - my sister Maureen Abbott has been feeding the homeless for over 35 yrs in FL. they have been arrest  ElsewheresDaughter   Jun-02-11 05:31 PM   #29 
     - This law was challenged  quaker bill   Jun-02-11 08:57 PM   #41 
        - There are some homeless persons who will not go near a shelter.  hamsterjill   Jun-02-11 10:41 PM   #43 
           - I agree that it should not be a crime to feed people  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:14 AM   #46 
  - Orlando outlaws Jesus? Makes it a crime to feed the  FailureToCommunicate   Jun-02-11 04:16 PM   #14 
  - And there are plenty of witnesses -- just have to subpoena them at their ...  damntexdem   Jun-02-11 04:17 PM   #15 
  - Wasn't there a post about not saving someone commiting suicide...  undeterred   Jun-02-11 04:19 PM   #17 
  - Jesus would be shit out of luck in Orlando.  Hubert Flottz   Jun-02-11 04:45 PM   #23 
  - Not out of luck  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:34 AM   #55 
  - Yes, but the same is true of just about anywhere.  No Elephants   Jun-04-11 12:47 AM   #63 
  - The fires of hell would not be hot enough for those who pass such laws  FiveGoodMen   Jun-02-11 04:46 PM   #24 
  - can anyone explain why they aren't just ticketed, and are actually arrested?  tomm2thumbs   Jun-02-11 05:13 PM   #25 
  - I'm guessing it's a public health law  WatsonT   Jun-02-11 05:17 PM   #26 
  - And Some Local Residents  iamjoy   Jun-02-11 05:33 PM   #30 
  - the law is designed to keep the homeless invisible.  iemitsu   Jun-02-11 08:06 PM   #38 
  - If so, it is not working  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:24 AM   #50 
     - many laws don't work quite as they were intended.  iemitsu   Jun-03-11 11:18 PM   #62 
  - That is just the excuse used to fuck over the homeless.  Odin2005   Jun-02-11 11:22 PM   #45 
  - No, it is directed at OFNB  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:25 AM   #52 
  - close  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:27 AM   #53 
  - Good For the Police!  iamjoy   Jun-02-11 05:21 PM   #27 
  - having followed FNB since 2003 - they are on the side of the angels.  marasinghe   Jun-02-11 05:38 PM   #31 
  - They are good folks,  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:21 AM   #48 
  - Its funny how republican states that want fewer rules end up with more  eagertolearn   Jun-02-11 06:03 PM   #33 
  - Good thing Romney was not serving chili in Orlando, they might have locked him up.  Downwinder   Jun-02-11 06:29 PM   #35 
  - Only if his folks screwed up and did not get the permit n/t  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:23 AM   #49 
  - "If you feed the homeless, they'll just keep coming around like cats."  NYC_SKP   Jun-02-11 07:30 PM   #37 
  - This might be the start of a beautiful friendship ...  Boojatta   Jun-02-11 09:08 PM   #42 
  - WWJD indeed. . . . very sad. . . .n/t  annabanana   Jun-02-11 08:25 PM   #39 
  - "Food Not Bombs" is a liberal-sounding name  Doctor_J   Jun-02-11 10:50 PM   #44 
  - Even conservatives must get the permit  quaker bill   Jun-03-11 06:20 AM   #47 
  - Yeah, Rethuglicans in Florida wants all those darn "libruls" to move out ...  JAnthony   Jun-03-11 06:25 AM   #51 
  - sounds like the group  florida08   Jun-03-11 07:14 AM   #57 
  - Here's the link to the Mayor's Bio - he was Florida Senate Democratic  24601   Jun-03-11 06:43 PM   #59 
  - Bottom line: Communities need to deal with the issue of homeless individuals and families.  No Elephants   Jun-04-11 12:56 AM   #64 
  - methinks  melm00se   Jun-04-11 05:15 AM   #65 
  - What is this ... a "let the poor and homeless die" ruling -- ????  defendandprotect   Jun-04-11 10:01 AM   #66 
  - Whew!  Le Taz Hot   Jun-04-11 10:43 AM   #67 
 

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