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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 06:42 PM
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  -AP Sources: Pres. Obama to Allow New Military Terror Trials at Guantanamo Hissyspit  Mar-07-11 01:30 PM   #0 
  - if true, it's another nail in the coffin of democracy (not to mention Obama's 2012 candidacy)....  mike_c   Mar-07-11 01:37 PM   #1 
  - It wasn't a coffin nail when FDR allowed tribunals of the Germans  24601   Mar-07-11 06:03 PM   #8 
     - SCOTUS then also upheld the constitutionality of mass internment of Americans  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 03:28 PM   #108 
     - Hunh? We were 'at war' with Germany, meaning Congress had  coalition_unwilling   Mar-08-11 04:51 PM   #114 
        - None of the SCOTUS rulings have turned on the difference  24601   Mar-08-11 08:57 PM   #120 
           - I'm going to have to go back and review the history of those  coalition_unwilling   Mar-08-11 10:34 PM   #123 
              - If they are in essence POWs, the usual practice has been to  24601   Mar-09-11 08:31 PM   #125 
  - If there is a point to this  Demeter   Mar-07-11 01:38 PM   #2 
  - Me either  Zax2me   Mar-07-11 02:47 PM   #5 
  - He chose his advisors. This is on him.  aquart   Mar-07-11 01:48 PM   #3 
  - He ownes the GWB policies more and more each day.  blackspade   Mar-07-11 02:19 PM   #4 
  - Very disappointing...  Organic Machine   Mar-07-11 02:48 PM   #6 
  - What in the Hell does the President stand to gain by continuing  ladjf   Mar-07-11 05:41 PM   #7 
  - AP source: Obama to restart Guantanamo trials  Ian David   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #9 
  - Are We Going to Have to Walker All Over Him, Too?  Demeter   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #10 
  - This story must be mistaken...  hughee99   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #11 
  - Obama fails again  wuushew   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #12 
  - Bloody Hell!  laconicsax   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #13 
  - "Change you can believe in." nt  bemildred   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #14 
  - he is simply war-machine, big bankster sock puppet,as will be anyone allowed to be the US president  stockholmer   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #15 
  - sounds like Bush  salinen   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #18 
  - Sad but true. (n/t)  Nihil   Mar-08-11 07:16 AM   #22 
  - Bad  underpants   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #16 
  - I thought we had closed this fascist chapter of our history  mwrguy   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #17 
  - Obama lifts suspension on military terror trials at Guantnamo Bay  CHIMO   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #19 
  - You can always count on Obama!  Poll_Blind   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #20 
  - Pres. Obama's hand was forced by Congress, who refuses to allow detainees to be tried on US soil.  ClarkUSA   Mar-08-11 05:51 AM   #21 
     - If he'd acted within his first year in office like he said he would  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 03:43 PM   #110 
  - Obama Creates Indefinite Detention System For Prisoners At Guantanamo Bay  Purveyor   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #23 
  - The news keeps getting better!  laconicsax   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #24 
  - Hope and change. Blah  emilyg   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #31 
  - Our justice system isn't supposed to be a weapon.  EFerrari   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #25 
  - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! BOOOOO!!! BOOOOO FUCKING, FUCKING  TalkingDog   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #26 
  - Time for this executive to order bi-partisan opponents of closing  azul   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #27 
  - Indefinite detention regardless of where, is a different issue.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #85 
  - Everybody sing!  Blacksheep214   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #28 
  - Oh shit!  Shining Jack   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #51 
  - A effing *Executive Order* no less. Hot damn. And isn't it nice that  chill_wind   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #29 
  - Oh, for fucks sake!  blackspade   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #30 
  - I can't say  libmom74   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #32 
  - Yeah  slay   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #45 
  - All by design from disaster capitalists...The Corporate States of America...  sasquuatch55   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #79 
  - At this point, with the rah-rah crowd of Obama cheerleaders and  coalition_unwilling   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #93 
  - I am going to try and understand this.  DemocratAholic   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #33 
  - If a man isn't willing to sacrifice his political career for what is right  sudopod   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #36 
  - i so want to agree with you  DemocratAholic   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #39 
  - WTF  Skittles   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #50 
  - i wish that were possible  DemocratAholic   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #54 
  - It would be nice if he TRIED.  tblue   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #57 
  - That's not even true.  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #58 
  - my point was...  DemocratAholic   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #63 
     - You are conflating a "right" with "desirable in my personal world view."  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #90 
  - So, Republicons are smart enough to get lies across, but Dems are not smart enough to get truth  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #89 
  - So why pander to them?  Doctor_J   Mar-09-11 11:07 PM   #126 
  - But how could a sitting President ever manage to get his voice heard?  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #88 
  - Think of the consequences  JonLP24   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #70 
  - Public support is almost never naturally behind a war, either.  Heywood J   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #71 
  - well then enjoy having Mike Huckabee as president in 2012?  alp227   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #44 
  - So we need to be Republicans  MannyGoldstein   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #73 
  - +1. Very well said!  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #98 
  - Indefinite detention eliminates the need for pesky trials. Annd what Manny Goldstein said. Besides  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #91 
  - i should've said Ahmed Ghailani too n/t  alp227   Mar-08-11 12:20 PM   #106 
  - Those with deep scruples rarely get as far as fast or ever as Obama did  tavalon   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #48 
  - I feel you.  sudopod   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #52 
  - Name me a government that committed human rights abuses  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #65 
  - What you say is true. nt  Enthusiast   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #78 
  - Don't blame the victims.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #97 
  - If we can't win an election in the US because our ideas are unpopular  sudopod   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #100 
     - iWho lost on that platform?  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 03:58 PM   #111 
        - :3 nt  sudopod   Mar-08-11 06:42 PM   #117 
  - You speak of black box voting?  tavalon   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #102 
  - I know I was smitten and taken for a ride  tavalon   Mar-08-11 07:31 PM   #118 
  - Yes, but getting  pecwae   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #80 
     - You'de think it, huh?  tavalon   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #103 
  - AMEN! Not one incidence of torture or death is worth his effing political career!  tblue   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #56 
     - +1 nt  sudopod   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #59 
  - When he made that promise to close Gitmo,  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #55 
  - I understand your argument.  Enthusiast   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #76 
  - Please see Reply 62,  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #86 
  - He's got the bully pulpit  primavera   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #92 
  - What a complete disappointment he is.  FedUpWithIt All   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #34 
  - FFFFFUUUUUUUUU  NuclearDem   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #35 
  - So much for a whole ton of jobs for one town in IL  PatrynXX   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #37 
  - FTS  taught_me_patience   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #38 
  - oh well...who else can we vote for?  madrchsod   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #40 
  - No-one who could win a national election, I fear  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #68 
     - Good grief.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #99 
        - Yeah, but what can you do against a 90-6 vote in the Senate?  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-08-11 12:20 PM   #107 
           - I stand by my prior post. Read the thread.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 04:06 PM   #112 
              - You made about 10 'prior posts'. Which one, apart from 'good grief'?  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-08-11 05:37 PM   #116 
  - Obama might as well kill two birds with one stone...  TheeHazelnut   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #41 
  - Plus, that way he can go ahead and cut TFA without losing the positions...  realisticphish   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #64 
  - If we used our schools as prisons  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #66 
  - There goes pretty much the chance for the USA to not be a rogue nation.  plumbob   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #42 
  - Disgrace. nt  Bluebear   Mar-08-11 12:18 PM   #43 
  - Well, how to defend this?  crim son   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #46 
  - Thanks Obama,  tavalon   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #47 
  - ........  trusty elf   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #49 
  - Yep  Solly Mack   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #60 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #53 
  - And some still say there is no Shadow Government  Ter   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #61 
  - +1 (n/t)  Nihil   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #81 
  - Nice going,  area51   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #62 
  - I at least have respect for Jimmy Carter...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #67 
  - I would substitute "Dem" for "black," unless you have very hard evidence  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:20 PM   #104 
     - I purposely used "black" due to my own perception...  MrMickeysMom   Mar-08-11 09:36 PM   #122 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #69 
  - Obama Is Left Between A Rock And A Hard Place  DallasNE   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #72 
  - Honestly, I'd rather see a terrorist set loose  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #77 
  - i agree 100 percent but...  DemocratAholic   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #82 
  - Let them try and then name names  theaocp   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #83 
  - Well Written Response And I Agree  DallasNE   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #94 
  - Yes, there is a way.  lfairban   Mar-08-11 12:20 PM   #105 
  - You're saying Congress would overturn it on their own  Capitalocracy   Mar-08-11 03:40 PM   #109 
  - You say you agree with the post. If that is true, the rest of your reply makes no sense.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 04:39 PM   #113 
  - Actually, at worst, they would be only 'alleged terrorists' and the  coalition_unwilling   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #96 
  - Oh, please.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 04:56 PM   #115 
  - I thought I was electing a leader  Loki   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #74 
  - WHY? Why is he doing this?  Frank Cannon   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #75 
  - "to ensure that our security and our values are strengthened" LOLOLOL.  No Elephants   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #84 
     - Is There Anything At All This Guy Would Fight For?  LeFleur1   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #87 
     - "Is There Anything at All This Guy Would Fight For?"  Shining Jack   Mar-09-11 02:43 AM   #124 
     - Life in prison without trial is now "our values"?  SOS   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #95 
        - damn straight. nt  sudopod   Mar-08-11 12:19 PM   #101 
  - Why was/is this being ignored? "Montana town offers to take Gitmo prisoners"  Turborama   Mar-08-11 07:41 PM   #119 
  - That would be President Barak Walker Obama, n/t  24601   Mar-08-11 08:59 PM   #121 
 

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