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Thu Oct-07-10 12:47 AM
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| 160. Well, we also have the response from the White House....... |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... Which I'm sure no one is interested in, cause that would be like hearing both sides, and of course, we wouldn't want that..... because well, a "Staff's preliminary" unsigned report has got to be as good as gold....., and this President's motives must have been nefarious!  Much better indicting straight away, and asking more questions later. And "Coincidently", what better time to raise the anger on the President a few weeks prior to an election where he is being used as a referendum by the opposition? How quaint!  At least one will have to admit that it was Obama that created this "commission", so I guess the alleged lack of transparency is being discovered by Obama's willingness to be transparent.
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| -White House blocked BP oil spill estimates - Govt panel |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:11 AM |
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Change! Oh wait. |
Brickbat |
Oct-06-10 11:14 AM |
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change takes time... |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:31 AM |
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? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Oct-06-10 01:33 PM |
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I was in a rush |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:44 PM |
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I got it and I agree. Policies and laws take time, not behavior. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-10 02:28 PM |
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I got what you were saying. |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-06-10 02:40 PM |
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what you said was crystal clear. n/t |
nyc 4 Biden |
Oct-06-10 03:53 PM |
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So what is the truth? |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-06-10 09:24 PM |
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more details |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:06 PM |
#158 |
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Well, we also have the response from the White House....... |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-07-10 12:47 AM |
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FrenchieCat |
rainlillie |
Oct-07-10 06:51 AM |
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you were groaning about "a report that no one has seen" |
G_j |
Oct-07-10 10:07 AM |
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Meet the new boss - same as the old boss. Gulf issues, hurricanes |
24601 |
Oct-06-10 09:24 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Oct-06-10 11:18 AM |
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Love that transparency! |
DJ13 |
Oct-06-10 11:19 AM |
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Yeah, this |
ProSense |
Oct-06-10 11:43 AM |
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after the fact |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 12:57 PM |
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Nothing you won't defend. |
RetroLounge |
Oct-06-10 05:16 PM |
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That's not transparency. You're just looking through the White House solar panels. |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-07-10 02:27 AM |
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That is rotten. |
northoftheborder |
Oct-06-10 11:20 AM |
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Damning, if true. |
DirkGently |
Oct-06-10 11:22 AM |
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Call me cynical, but I'm not the least bit surprised. The |
WestSeattle2 |
Oct-06-10 08:57 PM |
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It was NOT Obama! This was one of those enemies he was keeping CLOSE |
HereSince1628 |
Oct-06-10 11:30 AM |
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It's three-dimensional chess, obviously. |
stranger81 |
Oct-06-10 03:32 PM |
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Oh, chess. I first read "cheese". Well, I'm in Wisconsin after all. n/t |
elocs |
Oct-06-10 03:44 PM |
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It's a very cheesy chess game ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:50 PM |
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Keeping a watch on enemies is one thing |
lark |
Oct-06-10 03:54 PM |
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Who exactly was responsible for putting/keeping those |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 05:47 PM |
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Hey! Look over there!!! A flying saucer!!!!!!!! n/t |
HereSince1628 |
Oct-06-10 05:53 PM |
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I think that answers my question sufficiently. |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 06:08 PM |
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Disgusting |
saigon68 |
Oct-06-10 11:32 AM |
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I remember back then that all the estimates were wrong, so what was the point. |
Mr. Sparkle |
Oct-06-10 11:38 AM |
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for me, the point here is motive. |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:49 AM |
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Except they censored the worst-case scenarios. That's called bias. n/t |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:34 PM |
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Well said, and people were already going nuts, and how do we know Obama made the call? |
ProgressiveMajority |
Oct-06-10 02:11 PM |
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Response to nice summary of talking point list. |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 02:22 PM |
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Can't say it better than that. n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-06-10 02:43 PM |
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Yup |
MissDeeds |
Oct-06-10 03:33 PM |
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If we can fight wars for oil, what is a cover up for oil spills? |
molly77 |
Oct-06-10 08:07 PM |
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Not to mention that I guarantee you and everyone else that it would have been better to |
AlabamaLibrul |
Oct-06-10 05:32 PM |
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Plus it made the scientists look bad. The very people who were supposed to bring credibility |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:25 PM |
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+1000% ... plus it builds suspicion, like why the freeze on off-shore drilling has been lifted??? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:58 PM |
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And let me add |
Oak2004 |
Oct-06-10 08:32 PM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Oct-06-10 04:16 PM |
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We also heard the story of the 9/11 First Responders. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-06-10 07:59 PM |
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The problem wasn't that all the estimates were wrong. |
stranger81 |
Oct-06-10 03:34 PM |
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Seriously? |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:17 PM |
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So the answer was to withhold the worst news? |
No Elephants |
Oct-06-10 04:33 PM |
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Absolutely no excuse or legal or ethical rationalization for this. |
Divernan |
Oct-06-10 12:14 PM |
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+1 |
Iowa |
Oct-06-10 01:35 PM |
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There were a lot of people defending BP (both vocally and silently). This is not a good story |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:36 PM |
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So far Obama has protected and enabled and helped: |
truedelphi |
Oct-06-10 01:55 PM |
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Nice list. It may be too short. But how would we know? n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-06-10 03:08 PM |
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And we should vote democratic in Nov. f ? Neither |
molly77 |
Oct-06-10 08:10 PM |
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exactly |
janewin |
Oct-07-10 11:09 AM |
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plus plus.... |
speppin |
Oct-06-10 03:07 PM |
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Great points. +1 |
fishbulb703 |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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As I've said before... It's "business as usual" until BP execs are in jail. And I'm not |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 12:33 PM |
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But it's OK when our guy does it! |
OnyxCollie |
Oct-06-10 12:49 PM |
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IOKWWDI is hot hot hot! |
nashville_brook |
Oct-06-10 03:08 PM |
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+1000 |
MissDeeds |
Oct-06-10 03:42 PM |
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Obama is not Superman. He can't go down there and plug the hole himself! |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 12:58 PM |
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What does that have to do with any of this? |
skepticscott |
Oct-06-10 01:05 PM |
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That was one of the refrains around here |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 01:07 PM |
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:sarcasm: |
OnyxCollie |
Oct-06-10 01:08 PM |
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you forgot something |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:09 PM |
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Oops. |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 01:13 PM |
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what is funny |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:18 PM |
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100's of times on this site alone. |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 05:52 PM |
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Yes, but he is Aquaman. He could have directed a school of whales to plug the hole! |
CLANG |
Oct-06-10 01:10 PM |
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Get real! |
Roy Rolling |
Oct-06-10 02:31 PM |
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You get real!! You're living in a fantasy world - that comes from a movie screenplay! |
CLANG |
Oct-06-10 02:48 PM |
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No kidding... with the current budget crisis.... |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:20 PM |
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Sharks were in charge of the crisis and they still are. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 03:42 PM |
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Nicely done. |
hulka38 |
Oct-06-10 04:38 PM |
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heh |
Enrique |
Oct-07-10 09:39 AM |
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And now we are getting some change in the White House |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-10 01:05 PM |
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Are you saying Rahm and Summers were responsible for coddling BP? I doubt they |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:29 PM |
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I believe that the head of the OMB is also being changed. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-10 01:34 PM |
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Pitiful . . . . until we nationalize oil industry, we're at the mercy of corporate pressure |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 01:06 PM |
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+1000 |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:11 PM |
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Nationalized oil companies don't work well |
bherrera |
Oct-06-10 01:27 PM |
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Ever heard of Norway's Statoil? |
GeorgeGist |
Oct-06-10 03:20 PM |
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He only hears whatever he is paid to hear... |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:25 PM |
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Thanks for the laugh ... and OUCH .... what happened in Spain? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:47 PM |
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Oct-06-10 07:14 PM |
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Thanks for the info .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:20 PM |
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LOL |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:22 PM |
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NATIONALIZING the oil industry is the O N L Y answer ... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:43 PM |
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Can we try something small and simple, like putting corporate criminals in jail? |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:33 PM |
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Apparently not. When a local jurisdiction filed charges against someone culpable of War Crimes, |
truedelphi |
Oct-06-10 01:57 PM |
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The Dpt of Justice has an open case |
bherrera |
Oct-06-10 02:33 PM |
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Thanks much for the information. Does that sound encouraging to you? n/t |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 02:39 PM |
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BP apologist - as usual |
lark |
Oct-06-10 04:37 PM |
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Nor was there any pressure from the top to increase profits by cutting safety. That |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 04:41 PM |
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Sounds like you'd be interested in this thread ... |
Nihil |
Oct-07-10 07:01 AM |
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I'd also like to "nationalize" our military again ... is that too complicated, as well...???? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:49 PM |
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Yep. But we have a long way to go because right now we have the opposite... |
Iowa |
Oct-06-10 01:40 PM |
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Bingo! |
Little Star |
Oct-06-10 03:41 PM |
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Excellent point -- !!!! ..... "our WH and government have been 'corporatized'" -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:09 PM |
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The MIC and the Texas-American Petroleum Mafia are symbiotic entities. |
Raster |
Oct-06-10 02:07 PM |
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Sadly, yes .... two out of control programs/agendas .....we need to rein in BOTH--!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:10 PM |
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The U.S. govt can nationalize a British based company....how? Invading England? |
tjwash |
Oct-06-10 02:09 PM |
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Hmmm, I never heard of invasion as a nationalization technique... |
ljm2002 |
Oct-06-10 04:40 PM |
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You haven't ....? What do you think Columbus did? What of Hawaii .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:16 PM |
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I am well aware of our history... |
ljm2002 |
Oct-06-10 07:33 PM |
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There are still AMERICAN oil companies --- and the Gulf is still ours??? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:45 PM |
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NATIONALIZING our natural resources .... means OUR natural resources... and the GULF is one of them! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:12 PM |
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meet the new boss. nt |
ksecus |
Oct-06-10 01:17 PM |
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Hi there. |
truedelphi |
Oct-06-10 02:00 PM |
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Oct-06-10 01:19 PM |
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They never left. |
Iowa |
Oct-06-10 01:41 PM |
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Ghosts are like that. Some places are haunted and do strange things to the occupants. |
leveymg |
Oct-06-10 01:56 PM |
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The ghosts I think about are the ones leftover in the Intelligence complex from the... |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-06-10 01:59 PM |
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Oh, the spooks . . . you'd be surprised how many committee staffers and |
leveymg |
Oct-06-10 02:12 PM |
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They were just front guys (not men, they are not men). Did you notice how easily they relinquished |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-10 02:30 PM |
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Oct-06-10 01:59 PM |
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Securing a $20 billion fund from BP was not submissive |
bherrera |
Oct-06-10 02:35 PM |
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You're blaming the customers.. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Oct-06-10 04:28 PM |
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sigh |
barbtries |
Oct-06-10 02:00 PM |
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Read closely. This sucks, but not as bad as the lies of the Bush administration. |
jobycom |
Oct-06-10 02:27 PM |
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well, I imagine that |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 02:53 PM |
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Yep. Bush wouldn't have appointed a commission, he'd have hired a PR firm. nt |
jobycom |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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and what exactly do you think BP has done nationwide to bullshit you that don't live on the Gulf? |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 07:57 PM |
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That's the kicker. The last 21 months have pretty much been like every other politican. |
newtothegame |
Oct-06-10 05:33 PM |
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So when a politician SAYS they will be different in their campaign speeches, |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:26 PM |
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I'm afraid that's what will happen in this corner |
tavalon |
Oct-06-10 08:24 PM |
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Yes They Did! |
Bluebear |
Oct-06-10 03:02 PM |
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oh no they did'n -- |
nashville_brook |
Oct-06-10 03:05 PM |
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no big surprise.... |
madrchsod |
Oct-06-10 03:23 PM |
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**faceplant** |
stranger81 |
Oct-06-10 03:30 PM |
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It's a headline to grab attention when the report isn't remotely damning |
ProSense |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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Thanks. This post and the link didn't really show any proof. I kept reading |
The Wielding Truth |
Oct-06-10 05:19 PM |
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Thank you. The nastiness in this thread is disappointing but not |
Kdillard |
Oct-06-10 06:41 PM |
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The more things change.... |
humbled_opinion |
Oct-06-10 03:39 PM |
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That lump under the rug keeps on growing and growing and growing... |
City Lights |
Oct-06-10 03:44 PM |
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Timing is everything.... |
blindpig |
Oct-06-10 03:50 PM |
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How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t |
QC |
Oct-06-10 04:13 PM |
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Nationalize the oil industry.... |
Zax2me |
Oct-06-10 04:22 PM |
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Now you see right there... |
humbled_opinion |
Oct-06-10 06:14 PM |
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And like adding Hillary to this disaster is going to make everything better??? |
Peregrine Took |
Oct-06-10 04:24 PM |
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How interesting that Hillary was not mentioned |
Autumn |
Oct-06-10 04:35 PM |
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What the heck are you talking about?????? |
Beacool |
Oct-07-10 10:19 AM |
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Inmates running the asylum |
ccarnow |
Oct-06-10 04:32 PM |
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re: |
ccarnow |
Oct-06-10 06:18 PM |
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Can't get the peasants riled up, can we? |
Moondog |
Oct-06-10 05:11 PM |
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The peasants should sit quietly and watch their property values plummet and |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:28 PM |
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Couldn't we just hold this news until after the elections... |
jimlup |
Oct-06-10 05:31 PM |
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So this is what transparency looks like. |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 05:42 PM |
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OMB denies it suppressed oil flow data during BP spill |
ProSense |
Oct-06-10 05:43 PM |
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And the new guy at OMB is an ex-Citicorp executive ... thanks Obama...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:41 PM |
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Hey, that is a change... |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 07:17 PM |
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All of the banks seem to be involved .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:32 PM |
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"estimates of worst-case scenario" |
Turbineguy |
Oct-06-10 05:51 PM |
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The facts were known by the scientists ..they were silenced! By this White House |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 08:00 PM |
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By now, no surprise. The Democratic Party and Obama won't oppose corporate power... |
SteveM |
Oct-06-10 06:05 PM |
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But all those far-right 'muricans want gov't-managed health care. Don't forget that. n/t |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:29 PM |
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Nationalize the Oil Companies... Oil is too much of a Security Issue |
fascisthunter |
Oct-06-10 06:07 PM |
#116 |
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No longer surprised by any lie or cover-up |
Generic Other |
Oct-06-10 06:51 PM |
#129 |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Oct-07-10 01:30 AM |
#161 |
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"You can't handle the truth," shouted |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-06-10 06:56 PM |
#130 |
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"WE" the people of the Gulf were telling the truth and yet we were called liars! The Liars are and |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 07:40 PM |
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The cover up about the location, content & amount of dispersants contiues. |
Divernan |
Oct-06-10 09:16 PM |
#152 |
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you have that 100% right..and I am damn sick of all the apologists .. |
flyarm |
Oct-07-10 07:57 AM |
#166 |
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According to some O true believers, you & I are just "gullible, at best". |
Divernan |
Oct-07-10 08:48 AM |
#167 |
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My eyes are not gullible! I am a lifelong professional. |
flyarm |
Oct-07-10 08:56 AM |
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Most of us here know who they are - |
Divernan |
Oct-07-10 09:36 AM |
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Oct-06-10 08:48 PM |
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What it proves to me is that the "Follower" attitude is thick even here...... |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-06-10 09:32 PM |
#155 |
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You don't want to KNOW what I think of your attitude! ..and your cover ups! eom |
flyarm |
Oct-07-10 09:48 AM |
#171 |
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This is why we need more progressive Democrats in Congress. |
countmyvote4real |
Oct-06-10 10:47 PM |
#156 |
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The Gulf Ecocide was a Massive Cover Up from Day 1! |
earth mom |
Oct-06-10 10:49 PM |
#157 |
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You bet it was and is and everyone of us on the Gulf know it damn well! eom |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 11:48 PM |
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Another chance |
Panaconda |
Oct-07-10 07:48 AM |
#165 |
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