Reply #234: Wait. Let me try to get this straight.

[No Elephants]

In Reply #19, you posted, in part:

"It is amazing how many anti Kerry people seem to be on a first name basis with him in their atatcks - something I have NEVER seen towards any other Democrat."

I replied, in part:

"You've probably seen it with both Clintons (Bubba, Slick Willie, Bill, Hillary, Billary). Also Jarring Joe Lieberman (while he called himself a Democrat). And Barack (whom some Dems even call "Barry"). Maybe you're just less sensitive to it with Kerry, to whom you seem to have a special relationship/loyalty.

And Truman is often called "Harry," and Ted Kennedy called "Ted or Teddy, albeit by their Democratic supporters, not by their Democratic detractors. That may well be because neither of them seems to have many Democratic detractors."

Now, though, you post:" My point was the points that sacastly addressed questions to "John""




Are you now saying, your original point was not really use of a Democrat's first name in any ole attack, after all; you originally meant only attacks that are in the very specific form of sarcastic questions addressed to a Dem by his or her first name?

If you are, I fear I simply can't believe you.



I also wrote:

And Truman is often called "Harry," and Ted Kennedy called "Ted or Teddy, albeit by their Democratic supporters, not by their Democratic detractors. That may well be because neither of them seems to have many Democratic detractors.

The phenomenon of Democratic detractors of Democratic pols seems to be reserved either for ethically- or criminally-challenged Democrats (e.g., Blago, Rangel) or for DLC, New Democrats, Third Way Democrats (or whatever name--if any--they're using this week to distinguish themselves from classic Democrats), conservadems, DINOS, etc., who now seem to have completed their take over of the DNC and the leadership of the national party, to the point that they can now probably stop inventing new aliases for themselves."


While you did not disagree directly with my above statements, you wrote:


"The fact is that Kerry is one of the more liberal, progressive Democrats in the Senate."



I agree, as far as one of the most liberal current Senators, but please see Reply #93. I cannot agree or disagree as to "progressive" bc I have no idea what "progressive" means when a signer of the 2003 PNAC memo is also head of the Progressive Policy Institute.


"The real reason is that he beat St Howard Dean and then lost."

Total non sequitur and also only your opinion, so no sense responding.