Reply #258: Way back a week or so ago, in another thread on climate change,

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I said I think part of the problem in discussing this issue is that people on either side seem to run to the poles. I don't know of anyone who doesn't believe there is climate change going on. The question is not what's happening, but whether or not man plays any significant part in those changes, and what, if anything we can do to CHANGE NATURE. That's where I see politics, peer pressure, greed, and a play for power come in.

Call me what you like. I think the debate needs to expand, hopefully in a civil manner. If there are mistakes, if there is corruption, we should hope to get it cleaned up.