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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:33 PM
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Hostility between British and American military leaders (over Iraq) revealed
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Edited on Sun Nov-22-09 11:39 PM by Turborama
Source: Telegraph (UK)

The deep hostility of Britains senior military commanders in Iraq towards their American allies has been revealed in classified Government documents leaked to the Daily Telegraph.

In the papers, the British chief of staff in Iraq, Colonel J.K.Tanner, described his US military counterparts as a group of Martians for whom dialogue is alien, saying: Despite our so-called special relationship, I reckon we were treated no differently to the Portuguese.

Col Tanners boss, the top British commander in the country, Major General Andrew Stewart, told how he spent a significant amount of my time evading and refusing orders from his US superiors.

At least once, say the documents, General Stewarts refusal to obey an order resulted in Britains ambassador to Washington, Sir David Manning, being summoned to the State Department for a diplomatic reprimand - of the kind more often delivered to rogue states such as Zimbabwe or the Sudan.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/def...
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  -Hostility between British and American military leaders (over Iraq) revealed Turborama  Nov-22-09 11:33 PM   #0 
  - no surprise, two totally different military cultures...  vadawg   Nov-22-09 11:39 PM   #1 
  - This is an area where Obama might be able to do some good.  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 01:00 AM   #2 
  - nope no one can change the friction between the two sides  vadawg   Nov-23-09 01:12 AM   #5 
  - I would never suggest saying "pay down the debt" to the British,  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 02:11 AM   #8 
     - im simply giving you a soldiers perspective on the different culture that pervades both  vadawg   Nov-23-09 02:17 AM   #10 
        - Okay, I can appreciate that.  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 02:40 AM   #11 
  - Maybe the 'they owe us' attitude  Turborama   Nov-23-09 01:32 AM   #6 
  - I understand your comments, but I am writing to an American audience.  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 02:03 AM   #7 
  - As a brit living in Georgia who has served in the U.S. marines I have a bit  go west young man   Nov-23-09 11:43 AM   #20 
     - I'm sorry if I have given offense.  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 01:48 PM   #25 
        - No offence either Amanda.  go west young man   Nov-23-09 02:24 PM   #26 
           - Cheers. n/t  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 02:33 PM   #27 
  - I admire Eisenhower much more than I do Montgomery, I admire him, period. His son, too,  Joe Chi Minh   Nov-23-09 04:13 PM   #28 
  - Ugly American  Boudica the Lyoness   Nov-23-09 02:53 AM   #12 
  - Then don't read it. n/t  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 01:32 PM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-09 10:45 PM   #30 
  - Er, no  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-23-09 12:31 PM   #21 
     - You aren't telling me anything that I haven't known for 30 years.  amandabeech   Nov-23-09 01:34 PM   #23 
        - Avoiding arrogant nonsense like 'we pulled them out of the fire twice'...  Spider Jerusalem   Nov-23-09 01:36 PM   #24 
        - We don't deserve friends like you, Amanda. We're a bunch of post-  Joe Chi Minh   Nov-23-09 05:18 PM   #29 
  - Wow... numerous stories on the U.S. and Britain's screw ups in Iraq  go west young man   Nov-23-09 01:03 AM   #3 
  - One additional link as the Sunday Telegraph has obtained leaked  go west young man   Nov-23-09 01:09 AM   #4 
  - Good grief, don't tell me it's a conspiracy!  JohnyCanuck   Nov-23-09 05:07 AM   #17 
  - our ability to influence US policy in Iraq seemed to be minimal.  T_i_B   Nov-23-09 02:16 AM   #9 
  - Could the Brits have resented Commander AWOL Bush and Five-Deferments Cheney?  SpiralHawk   Nov-23-09 03:37 AM   #13 
  - Very few British politicians have ever served in the armed forces  T_i_B   Nov-23-09 03:45 AM   #14 
  - nope, makes no difference. they are military pros as you put it  vadawg   Nov-23-09 03:51 AM   #15 
     - Well, that will make the Republicon chickenhawks feel a lot better  SpiralHawk   Nov-23-09 04:57 AM   #16 
        - dosent make any difference to the British military who is in charge of the US, they follow the order  vadawg   Nov-23-09 05:09 AM   #18 
  - the US was under the leadership of a pack of IDIOTS ...who can be surprised?  sojourner   Nov-23-09 09:21 AM   #19 
 

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