YvonneCa
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Sat Nov-14-09 11:27 PM
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| 22. EXACTLY. The Democratic effort... |
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...has been to cut waste and abuse in the system. My understanding is that Medicare Advantage was a big part of the problem in keeping Medicare sustainable.
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| -Report: Bill would reduce senior care |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-14-09 09:11 PM |
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Do you believe the article? eoq |
tsuki |
Nov-14-09 09:15 PM |
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yes I do |
jemsan |
Nov-14-09 09:18 PM |
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The article states that the study was done by: |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-14-09 09:26 PM |
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"similar to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office" |
mac56 |
Nov-14-09 09:36 PM |
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The second quote I posted is from the CBO |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-14-09 09:55 PM |
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Not the CBO |
Sgent |
Nov-16-09 11:22 AM |
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Is that the same Richard S. Foster who failed to release the actual cost of medicare part D? |
fasttense |
Nov-15-09 06:21 AM |
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Bingo. |
tsuki |
Nov-16-09 05:11 AM |
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You don't take away $500 billion without some serious effects |
Alhena |
Nov-15-09 03:19 PM |
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That's the extra "profit" to pay private companies to provide Medicare Advantage. |
SharonAnn |
Nov-15-09 09:00 PM |
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No. The article misstates the cuts which were aren't really cuts but |
quiller4 |
Nov-16-09 02:00 AM |
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I do, as friends of ours have their own medical practice |
joeglow3 |
Nov-16-09 12:40 PM |
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No, but I remember Obama ads targeting McCain, saying McCain would cut medicare... |
Deja Q |
Nov-14-09 09:26 PM |
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wow, those youtube clips are devastating |
Psephos |
Nov-14-09 11:12 PM |
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And let's not forget this is just ONE of the unacceptable points in this bill |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-14-09 09:37 PM |
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Single payer is the best choice for a reason. |
TacticalPeek |
Nov-14-09 09:40 PM |
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And given 1900 pages of stuff that John Boner is too lazy to read, a fresh new system is |
Deja Q |
Nov-14-09 09:43 PM |
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The story is believable. |
SpankMe |
Nov-14-09 09:52 PM |
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Worse is this, particularly what people responding to it say: |
Deja Q |
Nov-14-09 09:54 PM |
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Oh, the AARP supported Bush's plan-D garbage. AARP is just another lobby... |
Deja Q |
Nov-14-09 09:55 PM |
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AARP licenses its name to insurance companies to sell AARP-branded medical insurance. |
Psephos |
Nov-14-09 11:26 PM |
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Yep! They license to United Health Care! Watch their |
napi21 |
Nov-15-09 01:36 AM |
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It's not a secret - but it is a strong financial reason for them to back the plan. |
Psephos |
Nov-15-09 01:44 AM |
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That explains the low membership costs. |
Turbineguy |
Nov-15-09 11:15 AM |
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AARP is a very BIG "For Profit " Health Insurance Corporation. |
bvar22 |
Nov-15-09 07:44 PM |
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As I understand it, most of the savings is coming from cuts |
napi21 |
Nov-14-09 10:00 PM |
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I hope so. |
Deja Q |
Nov-14-09 10:06 PM |
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Yes very easy! I've also heard there is a bill to increase reimbursements to |
napi21 |
Nov-14-09 10:13 PM |
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Way-cool |
Deja Q |
Nov-14-09 10:20 PM |
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Right you are! |
CANDO |
Nov-14-09 10:20 PM |
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EXACTLY. The Democratic effort... |
YvonneCa |
Nov-14-09 11:27 PM |
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You make it sound like a bad thing. |
Psephos |
Nov-14-09 11:29 PM |
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Medicare Advantage Plans are much cheaper to the participant. |
napi21 |
Nov-15-09 12:00 AM |
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Umm, are trying to say that raising Advantage premiums to my mom is a good thing? |
Psephos |
Nov-15-09 12:48 AM |
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I'm willing to pay more to get the rest of you HC! I honestly think $39/mo |
napi21 |
Nov-15-09 01:33 AM |
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Yes, that's a cool sentiment, but you sidestepped the main question. |
Psephos |
Nov-15-09 01:43 AM |
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I believe since the gov't will only be funding this program, it |
napi21 |
Nov-15-09 02:27 AM |
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Why is your mother not using traditional Medicare? |
CANDO |
Nov-15-09 08:35 PM |
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I had cancer treatmant last year under government run Medicare |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-15-09 08:47 PM |
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I'm with you all the way on single-payer. n/t |
Psephos |
Nov-15-09 09:48 PM |
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That is my understanding also. Those "Advantage" plans are............ |
pattmarty |
Nov-15-09 07:48 AM |
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Not when you look at the CBO report... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-15-09 03:00 PM |
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Wake me up |
Mz Pip |
Nov-14-09 10:13 PM |
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The Republicans aren't "thrilled" because the cuts will be coming........ |
pattmarty |
Nov-15-09 09:32 AM |
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So, Reform Is Too Successful? That's A Good Reason For Opposing Single Payer, Too. |
TomCADem |
Nov-14-09 10:47 PM |
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Link to the report: |
TacticalPeek |
Nov-14-09 11:29 PM |
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Cuts to Medicare Advantage program. Nice try though. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Nov-14-09 11:33 PM |
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Medicare was out of balance before all of this |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-15-09 12:24 AM |
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My question as well, especially with enrollment going from 46 milion to 79 million... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-15-09 02:58 PM |
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another reason this bill sucks |
winyanstaz |
Nov-15-09 02:32 AM |
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This public circus has gone on long enough... |
hayu_lol |
Nov-15-09 05:03 AM |
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exactly!! |
winyanstaz |
Nov-15-09 02:52 PM |
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This kind of "study" always |
FlaGranny |
Nov-15-09 07:10 AM |
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Of course, Congress could pass a law that says providers |
Vinca |
Nov-15-09 07:16 AM |
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If BO is making decisions to be re-elected, he can forget it, ain't gonna happen. |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Nov-15-09 08:08 AM |
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Another way to say the same thing-revenue will decrease for hospitals |
underpants |
Nov-15-09 08:12 AM |
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Exactly how much can be saved from the Medicare Advantage Plans and... |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-15-09 10:19 AM |
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So which is it? Either Medicare has a lot of fraud and waste, or it doesn't. The pubes say it does |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-15-09 08:46 PM |
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Here's an article from the AP I read this morning on Mediare fraud |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-15-09 08:54 PM |
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What a surprise! The WaPo runs a critical article! Now THAT'S news! And a newbie... |
Honeycombe8 |
Nov-15-09 08:47 PM |
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You sound like my Republican acquaintances |
unaffiliated liberal |
Nov-15-09 08:52 PM |
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hmmmmmm....is right |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-16-09 11:18 AM |
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It would be terrific if we got our military out of Iraq/Afghanistan |
Marthe48 |
Nov-16-09 12:06 PM |
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Democrats fought for a decade to get Medicare and you believe they now want to destroy it? |
Winterblues |
Nov-16-09 04:20 PM |
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The Democrats who fought for a decade to get Medicare in the 1960's are not the Democrats of today |
No Elephants |
Nov-17-09 10:30 AM |
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