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Fri Aug-14-09 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #62 |
| 99. I don't think I agree with everything you said there... |
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"The fact is that millions of people are losing their homes because the banks exploited them by getting them to sign contracts that the banks knew they wouldn't be able to abide by..."
Here is my issue. If the banks denied them the loan in the first place they would not be in the home at all. And it is not 'their' home it is the banks. Furthermore the people share at least equal responsibility for entering into a contract that they could not fulfill.
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| -Inspired by (Rosemary) Williams, second homeowner vows eviction fight |
Robb |
Aug-12-09 07:55 PM |
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good for them. |
ejpoeta |
Aug-12-09 07:56 PM |
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When the lenders systematically and amorally take advantage |
LanternWaste |
Aug-12-09 08:00 PM |
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Doesn't any lender in today global economic system |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 09:11 PM |
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My idea is that we should resist that capitalistic system you speak of. |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 10:52 PM |
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How so? I am really interested in your thoughts. nt |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 11:08 PM |
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Rosemary Williams is a great example. |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 11:15 PM |
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"exploit vulnerable citizens" is the problem. It is one |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 11:31 PM |
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I love it when people don't read the whole article... |
snooper2 |
Aug-14-09 09:31 AM |
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I have few doubts... |
LanternWaste |
Aug-14-09 01:59 PM |
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People need to be educated about the dangers of 2nd mortgages and equity loans. |
Demobrat |
Aug-12-09 08:54 PM |
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Some states used to have laws on the subject. |
Downwinder |
Aug-12-09 09:03 PM |
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She definitely contributed to her problems by |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 09:20 PM |
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Getting a DUI so she couldn't drive school buses any more didn't help either |
slackmaster |
Aug-12-09 09:26 PM |
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If your going to quote me you should be accurate at least. |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 09:32 PM |
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Self-delete |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 09:59 AM |
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No problem. I think we agree on this matter |
kelly1mm |
Aug-13-09 01:49 PM |
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Her problem is not that she took on debt to get by. |
Demobrat |
Aug-12-09 09:41 PM |
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I agree that she took on the worst kind of debt. Also, in good |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 10:00 PM |
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She didn't take on debt knowing she couldn't pay |
Demobrat |
Aug-12-09 10:35 PM |
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I definitely agree. Pay off your house ASAP and don't borrow against it. NT |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 11:11 PM |
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Someone please explain why you think Linda Norenberg deserves special treatment |
slackmaster |
Aug-12-09 09:19 PM |
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Slackmaster you need to get out more and off the computer |
annm4peace |
Aug-12-09 10:13 PM |
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Please explain how you think she is being treated unfairly |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 10:01 AM |
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I just met her at Rosemary's tonight, she is a wonderful person |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 09:28 PM |
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And just because she is a "wonderful person" she should |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 10:34 PM |
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Her house was built by her father in 1944, it has been in her family for 65 years |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 10:41 PM |
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Do you feel she should bear ANY responsibility for the situation |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 11:06 PM |
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She has faced a great deal of consequences already |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 11:09 PM |
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How is she being being "punished" for the logical |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 11:25 PM |
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If you haven't noticed there is a foreclosure crisis in this country |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 11:28 PM |
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The foreclosure crisis is mainly about the recent housing bubble and |
kelly1mm |
Aug-12-09 11:40 PM |
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Her father built the house, her family was paying for it for over six decades |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-12-09 11:48 PM |
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What in the OP or the linked article shows that the banks |
kelly1mm |
Aug-13-09 12:08 AM |
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No she wasn't.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 07:35 AM |
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Try putting yourself in the shoes of someone going through financial turmoil |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:43 AM |
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She could've sold the house... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 07:51 AM |
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There was a lot of sentimental value in that house... |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:58 AM |
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She had the option of living in that house free and clear... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 07:59 AM |
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I just met her last night and I plan on volunteering to help her. |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 08:02 AM |
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She is far more fortunate than me.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 08:12 AM |
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ROFLMA!!! Well said! nt |
IdaBriggs |
Aug-13-09 10:52 AM |
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ding ding ding |
snooper2 |
Aug-14-09 09:36 AM |
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If by exotic financing, you mean gamblers who needed suckers to sign |
mbperrin |
Aug-13-09 12:30 AM |
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OK. It may be a good idea to wipe out all debt out there |
kelly1mm |
Aug-13-09 12:59 AM |
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Why would I be sad about nobody borrowing money ever again? |
mbperrin |
Aug-13-09 08:44 AM |
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It would not be a bad thing in my opinion. |
kelly1mm |
Aug-13-09 02:06 PM |
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That Was Caused By Nice People Taking Out Loans They Shouldn't Have |
NashVegas |
Aug-14-09 07:39 AM |
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Those 70 year mortgages are a killer. |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 07:31 AM |
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I never said it was a seventy year mortgage I said they were paying for it since they owned it |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:46 AM |
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She had a paid for house.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 07:49 AM |
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She cashed out when she fell on hard times |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:54 AM |
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And there are consequences for that... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 07:56 AM |
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She isn't asking for "free lodging" |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:59 AM |
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Let's go through it... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 08:01 AM |
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Why was there any debt load on the property at all? |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 10:04 AM |
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Does being a wonderful person entitle her to free housing at someone else's expense? |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 10:03 AM |
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Please show me where anyone said anything about free housing |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:53 PM |
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Banks do negotiate when doing so has a reasonable chance of a better outcome than foreclosure |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 08:14 PM |
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I ask again show me where anyone said anything about free housing |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 08:31 PM |
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You are absolutely right, nobody actually said that |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 08:37 PM |
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Well yesterday GMAC agreed to negotiate |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 08:46 PM |
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No.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 10:58 PM |
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Rosemary Williams fell behind on her payments when her mom died and she lost her job |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 11:06 PM |
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No... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 07:36 AM |
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Rosemary Williams never got a DUI |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 07:51 AM |
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Once again... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 08:08 AM |
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Yes, I agree that would be a good thing |
slackmaster |
Aug-14-09 06:54 AM |
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Bjorn, you keep saying the same things over and over -- |
IdaBriggs |
Aug-13-09 11:10 AM |
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People keep telling me I said things I never said |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 07:24 PM |
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So.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-13-09 10:57 PM |
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I am sure glad you have never made a mistake in your life |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-13-09 11:43 PM |
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I have... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 07:34 AM |
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If you think her mistake "netted her tons of money" you clearly don't know the situation |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 07:41 AM |
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She cashed out... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 07:46 AM |
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I don't think you know very much about the case |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 07:57 AM |
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They both are in similar situations.. |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 08:03 AM |
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No you were responding to two posts both of which were clearly about Williams |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 08:05 AM |
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This thread is about Linda.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 08:07 AM |
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Then why is Rosemary's name in the title of the OP? |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 08:09 AM |
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Inspired by? |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 08:10 AM |
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If the murder was inspired by George Washington then yes... |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 08:32 AM |
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Please keep on topic.. |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 08:49 AM |
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I am on topic, Linda and Rosemary are working together directly |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 08:58 AM |
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The article is about Linda.. |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 09:23 AM |
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Please explain to me why you don't think these words are about Rosemary Williams |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 09:31 AM |
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Like I said... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 09:33 AM |
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Slackmaster and I were discussing it in a different subthread and you jumped in |
Bjorn Against |
Aug-14-09 09:47 AM |
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See post 95... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 09:50 AM |
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Why should the banks negotiate with them now? |
Lance_Boyle |
Aug-14-09 10:28 AM |
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I don't think I agree with everything you said there... |
Realityhack |
Aug-14-09 11:09 AM |
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This has EPIC FAIL written all over it.... |
WriteDown |
Aug-12-09 10:21 PM |
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Deleted, wrong spot |
WriteDown |
Aug-12-09 10:23 PM |
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Yep. |
crim son |
Aug-13-09 10:55 AM |
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At some point, she probably could have filed a Chapter 13 bankruptcy and kept the house |
slackmaster |
Aug-13-09 02:09 PM |
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Definately. n/t |
Realityhack |
Aug-14-09 10:57 AM |
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Homeowners of the world, unite! |
BOG PERSON |
Aug-13-09 01:30 AM |
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I applaud them for fighting. |
Vidar |
Aug-13-09 05:19 AM |
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Damned useless Baby Boomers! |
Le Taz Hot |
Aug-13-09 07:57 AM |
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Good for them! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-13-09 02:27 PM |
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As far as Rosemary is concerned... |
WriteDown |
Aug-14-09 09:49 AM |
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