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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:30 AM
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177. Hell Yeah!
Let's make this happen.

I'm stunned at how many DU'rs are freaking out and against this.

What the hell.

I have to wonder if you would have been against a statewide recount in Florida or Ohio.

The machines used in N.H. are the same machines used in the HBO Black Box Voting documentary.

The paper ballots are there, why not recount them?

We're talking about a primary here, Dems checking Dems. This should show the rest of the country that we're more concerned about the integrity of our voting machines than any one candidate.

This never did go down in Ohio, and what did go down was cherry picked by the Rethug there who promised a Rethug win. Then there was the dude from Diebold who promised a Rethug win in Ohio as well.

How many Du'rs are there here that were boing ape shit about that, but now they break out the tin foil hats and call Kucinich crazy?

While he might not be a viable candidate to occupy the White House, he's a fighter and is probably still in the race for reasons just like this.

If the paper ballots add up and mirror the electronic counts then fine ... good in fact. Then we can grimace at the "kool-aid" and go about our business with a little more confidence in the machines.

I've heard reports that the machines in S.C. are even MORE unreliable than N.H., so it's better to get this out of the way.

If this is all just tin foil hat shit, then why are more and more states pushing to get rid of the electronic voting machines????

To hell with this shit, this needs to happen.

What are we afraid of? The entire country's voting system going into question? Are we afraid there will be unrest in the streets and the entire country will look like Kenya does from there elections?

No it won't.

If there's shit to be exposed then it needs to be exposed. If there's nothing there to expose, but racial prejudice, or the fact that N.H. women acted as a huge collective and all turned to Hillary because of her weeping moment, then so be it.

I don't personally buy it and know that most people don't watch cable news. Most are clued to the likes of American Idol ... even in N.H. on the eve of the primary. That's why campaigns employ legions of people on phone banks and bang on every door in the state for votes.

The precious Hillary "human" moment wasn't even seen by many N.H. voters. Maybe they walked past a snapshot of it on a newspaper they didn't buy ... that's about it.

Why are the pundits acting as if every American is a huge political news junkie??? Acting as if every N.H. primary voter was in attendance at every rally??? That they were all glued to their tv sets watching the so called critical moment between Hillary and Chris Matthews? Or that every N.H. woman stewed and stewed over the petty comment Obama had after Hillary said she thinks she's likeable???

Oh yeah, sure ... a HUGE 14% swing because Obama said, "you're likeable enough." Ooooooooo, how pompous of him. Get out the word, women of N.H. revolt and unite!!!!!

What the hell!?!

We all know for damn straight and sure that it is almost impossible to swing the public's opinion from one direction to another on a dime. It just doesn't happen.

Maybe if there was a HUGE definitive front-page campaign to defame Obama and a massive media agreement all giving a nod to Hillary ... maybe. But no, even the Clinton's thought N.H. was lost. The only question was how bad the loss would be.

Chris Matthews comes out and tells his audience that the exit polls he saw had Obama up by 8 points.

How is it that Obama was up in the pre-primary polls and up in the exit polls, and loses?

People lied before the election, voted differently than what they told pollsters they were going to vote, then turned around and left their polling place, and lied again and told the exit pollsters that they just voted for someone that they didn't vote for!!!

This is insane.

Exit polls are spot on because people don't lie about who they just voted for. They have no reason to lie about it.

The recount is the only way to come close to anything definitive to explain the discrepancies.

No sour grapes ... just a yearning for fair and accurate elections. Period.
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