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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:17 PM
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23. We should bring the criminal murderers to justice.
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 01:18 PM by Warren Stupidity
All of them. Senator Kerry, very briefly, attempted to reframe the entire issue during his campaign. He stated, and then retracted the novel concept that we ought to use police tactics and law enforcement tactics to go after criminal such as bin Laden. He flopped right away from that statement. Too bad as if he had more courage it might have been an opportunity to break through the cocoon of bullshit that has been spun for us.

The problem with a 'War On Terror' is that terror is a word, a concept, a tactic, not a nation, not an organization, not an entity with which one can wage war.

The Bush Cabal has used the language here, the phrase 'War On Terror' to then turn around and insist that they are above the law, that they have extraordinary powers, because 'we are at war', that they can discard international treaties, Constitution, and laws and do whatever they please in the name of this war. They further pronounce that this supposed war will last a very long time (the 'long struggle' they have called it.) Indeed, as there is no defined enemy to defeat, as it is a war against an abstraction, it can go on forever, it can be perpetual war.

The supposed War On Terror has not even managed to achieve what would be a legitimate goal: the bringing to justice of the alleged mastermind of the attack on 9-11. In fact, that effort, what ought to have been the primary focus of our efforts after the attack over four years ago, has never been of much importance to this administration. Instead they have used their phony war on the ill defined term 'terror' to go on their mission to conquer the middle east and establish their PNAC American Hegemony.

What are the conditions for victory? Who is the enemy? How will we know that victory in this fictitious war has been won, or that defeat is upon us?
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  -Clark: U.S. Needs New Plan on Terror War ingin  Apr-01-06 11:04 AM   #0 
  - Who better to address the issue of national security.....  Rowdyboy   Apr-01-06 11:12 AM   #1 
  - "macho slogans and an incredible failure to see the obvious"  RaRa   Apr-01-06 11:18 AM   #2 
  - U.S. politicians need to stop advocating a ridiculous "war on terror..."  mike_c   Apr-01-06 11:19 AM   #3 
  - Really it sounds more like you want  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 11:25 AM   #4 
     - i agree  cleofus1   Apr-01-06 11:28 AM   #5 
     - No...  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 11:31 AM   #6 
     - And where does the plan above advocate that?  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 11:34 AM   #7 
     - Plan for WHAT?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 11:54 AM   #8 
        - why is it necessary to  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 12:06 PM   #10 
        - Oh so this General  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 12:14 PM   #13 
           - I understand some of your anger  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 12:25 PM   #16 
              - Angry like Dean?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 12:49 PM   #21 
                 - No, as in  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 01:05 PM   #22 
                    - Why do I have to?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 01:42 PM   #31 
                       - Thanks for linking that Op Ed (edited)  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 01:54 PM   #32 
                          - His successful negotitions?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 02:14 PM   #39 
                             - Clark became  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 02:26 PM   #41 
        - I was going to reply to you  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 12:07 PM   #11 
           - Good...  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 12:17 PM   #14 
              - If you could read , you would know the answers to some  dogman   Apr-01-06 12:22 PM   #15 
                 - oh so this was hype as well...  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 12:45 PM   #19 
                    - Wow, quotes taken out of context -- what a novel idea!!  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 12:49 PM   #20 
                    - Figured it was on record...  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 01:18 PM   #25 
                       - Well, they call themselves FAIR, so they must be.  dogman   Apr-01-06 01:39 PM   #29 
                          - Oh so Clark  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 01:56 PM   #33 
                             - I'd say so.  dogman   Apr-01-06 02:30 PM   #42 
                                - What victory? What Peace?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 02:45 PM   #44 
                                   - Did you even READ the article you're citing?!?  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 02:57 PM   #45 
                                      - My solution?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 03:05 PM   #47 
                                         - How you gonna make that happen  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 03:05 PM   #48 
                    - I don't support a shameless opportunist war -profiteer, I support Wes  dogman   Apr-01-06 01:17 PM   #24 
                       - So if Clark is conventional?  MrPrax   Apr-01-06 02:00 PM   #34 
                          - He was reporting.  dogman   Apr-01-06 02:10 PM   #38 
                          - Oh for cryin' out loud!!  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 02:16 PM   #40 
     - hi mr pax  cleofus1   Apr-01-06 11:55 AM   #9 
     - We should bring the criminal murderers to justice.  Warren Stupidity   Apr-01-06 01:17 PM   #23 
     - Terror is a concept and so is the "War on Terror"  dogman   Apr-01-06 01:23 PM   #26 
     - Of course  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 01:37 PM   #28 
     - Yes of course we should, but stop calling it a "war"  WannaJumpMyScooter   Apr-01-06 01:41 PM   #30 
     - please see post #28  Jim4Wes   Apr-01-06 02:00 PM   #35 
     - A 'war on terrorists' is ludicrous at best. It was a crime and it should  leesa   Apr-03-06 12:25 PM   #50 
  - Clark Kicked Failed "War President's" Ass  Mark E. Smith   Apr-01-06 12:11 PM   #12 
  - An outstanding address.  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 12:25 PM   #17 
  - I hope he runs in 2008...  Maddy McCall   Apr-01-06 12:28 PM   #18 
  - I spread the meme daily in SW Ohio  48percenter   Apr-01-06 01:27 PM   #27 
     - Today's AP article is easily forwarded from Yahoo...  Sparkly   Apr-01-06 02:03 PM   #37 
  - Rate this up on Yahoo only has a 4  BareNakedLiberal   Apr-01-06 02:02 PM   #36 
  - Clark represents the Democrats  OKNancy   Apr-01-06 02:44 PM   #43 
     - Yes, Yes, Yes.  Maddy McCall   Apr-01-06 03:05 PM   #46 
        - Kick for Clark  kysrsoze   Apr-03-06 08:32 AM   #49 

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