Reply #20: Anyone listening to Thom Hartmann today?

[RamboLiberal]

Damn is he doing a good job of explaining why "illegal" immigration is destroying those who aspire to the middle class. I agree with Thom and not Bush or with the Repukes.

It's my belief that "illegal" immigration is driving down wages and taking away jobs. I liken the situation has a similar history to what happened in much of this country mid-late 1800's through early 1930's that became the foundation of the labor movement. The industrial barons like Carnegie, Henry Frick, Rockefeller's, etc. imported and used immigrants in their mines, mills and railroads as cheap replaceable labor. When one group would try to organize and demand better wages and working conditions the Carnegies and Fricks would import desparate new workers from another section of Europe.

My ancestors were those immigrants from Germany and Slovakia. I heard the brutal stories of a brutal 24 shift change workday in hot steel mills, and the loss of limbs and deaths working in the rail yards.

IMHO Bush supports guest workers to provide cheap labor to his business minions.