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| Democrats Urged to Abandon Election Myths |
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1189267 Democrats Urged to Abandon Election Myths Analysts Say Democrats Must Abandon Election Myths if They Want to Regain Political Power WASHINGTON Oct 6, 2005 — To regain political power Democrats must abandon favorite election myths, adopt a strong position on national defense and pick candidates who connect with average voters, two political analysts from the party said Thursday. Political scientists Elaine Kamarck and William Galston, both Democrats, warned that the most important first step is to abandon beliefs they describe as "election myths." The report, done for the moderate Democratic strategy group Third Way, compared the current situation to 1989, when they wrote a report that mapped a centrist strategy for Democrats. The said the current "myths" are: The belief Democrats can win if they just do a great job of mobilizing their base. Republicans have improved at mobilizing their own base, so Democrats need to do more than that. ... more "myths" @ link
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| -Democrats Urged to Abandon Election Myths |
sabra |
Oct-06-05 10:45 AM |
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if we can get all dems talking the same line in 06 and if it is goof |
tompayne1 |
Oct-06-05 10:47 AM |
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If the DNC can get the voting machines exposed before 2006 we win, because |
blm |
Oct-06-05 11:16 AM |
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And 2000!!! |
Blue for Ohio |
Oct-06-05 12:33 PM |
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More DLC bullshit |
jackbourassa |
Oct-06-05 10:47 AM |
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Amen. Number one myth we have to abandon is that of |
Benhurst |
Oct-06-05 10:53 AM |
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Amen to that! It's High Time the DLC got the message loud and clear |
radio4progressives |
Oct-06-05 11:36 AM |
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Your myth #2 is actually #1! |
fshrink |
Oct-06-05 01:13 PM |
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Ditto that. Blowing more smoke. nt |
bemildred |
Oct-06-05 11:10 AM |
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Let me add another amen to that. |
cybildisobedience |
Oct-06-05 12:47 PM |
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DLC doing the best it can to resuscitate its tattered image IMO n/t |
mazzarro |
Oct-06-05 11:37 AM |
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bullseye God I hate people like those two "Democratic experts" n/t |
confludemocrat |
Oct-06-05 04:41 PM |
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DLC's Third Way is not different from the Third Way in the film |
IndianaGreen |
Oct-06-05 10:01 PM |
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Be more moderate! Be tough on defense! What idiots. |
Voltaire99 |
Oct-06-05 11:46 PM |
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Ah right, then we'll believe some guy in a cave er in iraq er some iraqis |
radwriter0555 |
Oct-06-05 10:49 AM |
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Hey! That's voter verified paper ballots. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-06-05 12:44 PM |
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It's NOT a myth it's a fact. Show me the evidence that it didn't |
texpatriot2004 |
Oct-06-05 10:50 AM |
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They Have Stolen 3 National Elections (2000, 2002, and 2004) |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-06-05 11:08 AM |
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"The republicans haven't won an election since 1988..." in 15 years... |
radwriter0555 |
Oct-06-05 01:33 PM |
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The "election myths?" |
Arkana |
Oct-06-05 10:50 AM |
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In other words, turn into a republican. |
T Wolf |
Oct-06-05 10:52 AM |
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Republicans, not Democrats, need to abandon election myths. |
BlueIris |
Oct-06-05 10:53 AM |
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An Election Myth = Free Elections |
SupplyConcerns |
Oct-06-05 11:00 AM |
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Election myth: That Americans think Bush's Iraq policy is strong |
jackbourassa |
Oct-06-05 11:06 AM |
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That's what I thought too... Hey! Welcome to DU!!!!! |
Angry Girl |
Oct-06-05 11:10 AM |
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Boycott elections? |
Laelth |
Oct-06-05 11:42 AM |
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No, At Least Make Them Go to the Trouble of Stealing Your Vote |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-06-05 02:26 PM |
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Bingo. I hoped too they were talking about the need for FREE ELECTIONS! |
cassiepriam |
Oct-06-05 04:44 PM |
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Here's My Take |
iamjoy |
Oct-06-05 11:02 AM |
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The current party leadership has no vision to better articulate. |
Voltaire99 |
Oct-07-05 12:04 AM |
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They wish |
melody |
Oct-06-05 11:06 AM |
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IMO the article is accurate on myths. We tried to tweak our platform |
jody |
Oct-06-05 11:06 AM |
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So Instead, We Are To Ignore the Views of 2/3 of the Voters? |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-06-05 11:13 AM |
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Clinton put it best |
Tarc |
Oct-06-05 11:23 AM |
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We Dems make up perhaps 33% of the voters. It's impossible to gain |
jody |
Oct-06-05 11:25 AM |
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It Is the REPUBS Who Ignore the Independents |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-06-05 02:40 PM |
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Effectiveness of pro-life propaganda |
K-W |
Oct-06-05 03:04 PM |
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That's we need IRV and PR NOW! |
radio4progressives |
Oct-06-05 04:46 PM |
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We dont ignore the views of independents, only wingnuts. |
K-W |
Oct-06-05 11:16 AM |
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I don't agree that people who vote for or against |
jody |
Oct-06-05 11:30 AM |
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They are not functionally independent in the current political climate. |
K-W |
Oct-06-05 12:29 PM |
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Give up equality, choice and the separation of church and state? |
TankLV |
Oct-06-05 10:42 PM |
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Kamarck a founder of DLC, I think, both are connected to PPI/Third Way. |
madfloridian |
Oct-06-05 11:07 AM |
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They ARE readying DU |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-05 11:09 AM |
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Be more Republican! Be more Republican! |
amBushed |
Oct-06-05 11:10 AM |
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The Two Greatest Myths I See |
Demeter |
Oct-06-05 11:10 AM |
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Dems can win if the Repubs stop stealing elections. |
fooj |
Oct-06-05 11:11 AM |
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Only if the Republicans abandon their myths that |
superconnected |
Oct-06-05 11:17 AM |
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Democrats need to stop focusing on domestic issues?! |
sadiesworld |
Oct-06-05 11:22 AM |
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AKA - Become the Republican Party |
jsamuel |
Oct-06-05 11:33 AM |
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The advice that we need more atractive candidates is not earth |
John Q. Citizen |
Oct-06-05 11:41 AM |
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It's Imperative that Grass Roots Dems PUSH IRV / PR Choice Voiting |
radio4progressives |
Oct-06-05 12:39 PM |
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A "strong defense"? A "smart defense" should be our motto |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Oct-06-05 11:47 AM |
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Here is what we need. |
RDANGELO |
Oct-06-05 11:47 AM |
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They are partially correct |
bluestateguy |
Oct-06-05 11:58 AM |
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Pro-waffling consultants lose elections for Democrats |
elsiesummers |
Oct-06-05 12:21 PM |
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Democrats should abandon the worthless DLC idiots! nt |
VegasWolf |
Oct-06-05 12:31 PM |
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How about that- let's TRY real hard to lose again |
depakid |
Oct-06-05 12:35 PM |
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Oh, I've already abandoned the myth of fair elections |
Solly Mack |
Oct-06-05 12:35 PM |
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Did a tectonic shift just occur? |
AntiFascist |
Oct-06-05 12:35 PM |
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Why Does Will Lester Think This Is News? |
DrFunkenstein |
Oct-06-05 12:55 PM |
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Amazing in it's need of tweaking.... |
HardWorkingDem |
Oct-06-05 01:04 PM |
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So, abandon the disenfranchised, abandon our values and principles... |
VolcanoJen |
Oct-06-05 01:07 PM |
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Voters in the middle say Democrats have no values |
creeksneakers2 |
Oct-06-05 01:14 PM |
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#1 MYTH - > DLC Can Win Elections |
bpilgrim |
Oct-06-05 01:32 PM |
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Elected Democrats already abandoned the "election myth" |
Norquist Nemesis |
Oct-06-05 01:37 PM |
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What a bunch of bull. |
lumpy |
Oct-06-05 02:39 PM |
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Get rid of the electronic machines first, |
nvliberal |
Oct-06-05 02:43 PM |
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Lots of backpedaling here... |
OzarkDem |
Oct-06-05 02:48 PM |
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I was thinking the "election myths" |
zidzi |
Oct-06-05 03:08 PM |
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The biggest myth of all, of course that we matter |
WannaJumpMyScooter |
Oct-06-05 03:14 PM |
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These guys should abandon their dominant election myth that |
Emillereid |
Oct-06-05 03:23 PM |
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well the dlc stays on message -- i'll say that for them. |
xchrom |
Oct-06-05 04:38 PM |
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It's a joke. It's go to be. Surely. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Oct-06-05 04:58 PM |
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I totally dissagree with that article. |
gorbal |
Oct-06-05 06:04 PM |
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If we tell the truth and stick with our story, we win. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Oct-06-05 10:53 PM |
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These myths are themselves a myth... |
anaxarchos |
Oct-07-05 12:03 AM |
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Screw them. Just screw them. |
grasswire |
Oct-07-05 12:28 AM |
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Words without knowledge |
UKCynic |
Oct-07-05 12:30 AM |
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and also . . |
UKCynic |
Oct-07-05 12:40 AM |
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Like it or not, there are some points to consider here. |
RBInMaine |
Oct-07-05 05:00 AM |
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