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Fri Aug-12-05 10:59 PM
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| 15. It's possible that and the main article could both be true, |
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that Aswat is an asset of some intelligence agency or agencies, but that the bombers were still independent "homegrowns". What does seem clear is that a lot of "official" sources were pushing all kinds of angles in the aftermath, and there were a lot of contradictions. Some were pushing the homegrown/amateur angle, some were pushing the international network angles. To me it seemed like different groups of influence and their voices in the media had different ideas on how the attacks could be best exploited, wherever the truth lies. Some are maybe too invested in the international top-down organised al-Qaeda myths they've built, some wanted to stress homegrown dangers to support repressive domestic legislation.
All the attention around Aswat could maybe have been caused by sources wanting to talk up or go after Pakistani and international al-Qaeda links that weren't really there, without realising just how complicated a person of interest he actually was? There did seem to be a hell of a lot of backtracking after the report(s) he'd been arrested in Pakistan, and I noted here my surprise that the popular British press didn't pick up on him and his apparent links with Abu Hamza, who is a front page hated Islamic extremist bogeyman in the UK (not that I noticed anyway). They'd probably claim it's because Hamza is awaiting trial, but I can't believe that would stop them splashing on a story linking Abu the hook man to the bombings. More than meets the eye, definitely.
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| -London bombings: the truth emerges (no al-Qaeda 'mastermind') |
lockdown |
Aug-12-05 07:44 PM |
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Wow. Whatta ya know. al Qaeda isn't the only game in town. |
Journeyman |
Aug-12-05 07:45 PM |
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And, gee, actions have consequences... |
krkaufman |
Aug-12-05 09:07 PM |
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you know what i think |
Sven77 |
Aug-12-05 07:52 PM |
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exactly! |
Fridays Child |
Aug-12-05 08:46 PM |
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LOL!!!!.......Sounds like a good Alfred Hitchcock movie to me. |
goforit |
Aug-13-05 04:55 PM |
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Myths about the bombings (from same edition of Independent) |
lockdown |
Aug-12-05 07:54 PM |
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I think this is bullshit |
Frederik |
Aug-12-05 08:48 PM |
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Haroon Rashid Aswat |
lockdown |
Aug-12-05 09:02 PM |
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It's possible that and the main article could both be true, |
lockdown |
Aug-12-05 10:59 PM |
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Good points |
Frederik |
Aug-13-05 05:49 AM |
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Differing official agendas |
lockdown |
Aug-13-05 11:04 AM |
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Intelligence sources, security sources, the usual |
lockdown |
Aug-13-05 12:53 PM |
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"Intelligence sources" |
Frederik |
Aug-13-05 04:17 PM |
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The Aswat connection didn't come from the media, |
lockdown |
Aug-13-05 05:15 PM |
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Yes, that is true |
Frederik |
Aug-13-05 05:27 PM |
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Yeah |
lockdown |
Aug-13-05 05:59 PM |
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So many stories, so little truth |
fedsron2us |
Aug-13-05 06:01 AM |
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Agreed. Funny how the announcement that he is an M16 agent spurs |
leesa |
Aug-13-05 11:14 AM |
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There goes the excuse to invade Iran... |
bush still has to go |
Aug-12-05 07:55 PM |
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Don't worry. |
charlyvi |
Aug-12-05 08:14 PM |
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Since when do they need an excuse? |
Kool Kitty |
Aug-13-05 03:04 AM |
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Someone on Smirking Chimp.com wrote that she was half asleep listening to |
Trevelyan |
Aug-12-05 07:59 PM |
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I take it there won't be anti-false-flag-attack protests... |
wli |
Aug-12-05 08:35 PM |
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Always such a ray of darkness, wli - |
Nostradammit |
Aug-13-05 01:42 AM |
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... and that's why the Inquisition lasted 600 years |
wli |
Aug-13-05 03:03 AM |
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I've good news for you - |
Nostradammit |
Aug-14-05 03:27 AM |
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Our actions in Iraq and the ME in general are "breeding" terrorists |
54anickel |
Aug-12-05 08:46 PM |
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Yeah, it still fits an agenda of sorts, however true it is |
lockdown |
Aug-12-05 08:53 PM |
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It's designed to soften up the public |
Karenina |
Aug-13-05 02:24 PM |
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Way To GO BUSH!!! U DA Man!!! nt |
VegasWolf |
Aug-12-05 08:54 PM |
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GOOD counter-intelligence story to protect Poodle's farcical |
emad |
Aug-13-05 09:15 AM |
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"global terrorists to act as a smokescreen for organised crime running the |
slay |
Aug-13-05 09:22 AM |
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LOL!!!!.........Bada bing!!! |
goforit |
Aug-13-05 04:58 PM |
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"we gotta fight 'em over there, so we don't haffta fight 'em over heya" |
lonestarnot |
Aug-13-05 09:23 AM |
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Same modus operandi as the Madrid bombings of 2004 |
Julius Civitatus |
Aug-13-05 03:14 PM |
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OK, so there is consistency here. Where were they all trained? |
goforit |
Aug-13-05 05:00 PM |
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Partial corroboration in Sunday Telegraph |
lockdown |
Aug-13-05 09:09 PM |
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