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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-05-05 07:00 AM
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109. Argh!!!!
you don't play footsies with a bear.

Screw the compromise, it's time for a goddamn showdown and test of wills.
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  -Filibuster deal could thwart efforts to nix conservative Supreme nominee MelissaB  Jul-03-05 09:45 PM   #0 
  - BS!!  ixion   Jul-03-05 09:48 PM   #1 
  - What's the point of this deal, if extraodinary circumstances NEVER happen?  calipendence   Jul-03-05 10:22 PM   #4 
  - The "Deal" was "NO DEAL for America"  Born Free   Jul-04-05 05:05 AM   #17 
  - One correction (imho)  pokercat999   Jul-04-05 07:01 AM   #19 
  - When this so-called "Deal" was forged I immediately called BS on the Dems  Pachamama   Jul-04-05 01:10 PM   #67 
  - Extraordinary circumstances do happen  ikojo   Jul-04-05 09:01 AM   #25 
  - The point was to get their judges and 'fuck the democrats'  spanone   Jul-04-05 09:21 AM   #28 
  - I never liked the McCain/Reid deal.  jurassicpork   Jul-04-05 01:55 PM   #75 
  - Here's the hook  OldLeftieLawyer   Jul-04-05 02:49 PM   #84 
     - Uh, it's dead girl or live boy  Eloriel   Jul-05-05 08:43 AM   #113 
        - Times have changed  OldLeftieLawyer   Jul-05-05 09:33 AM   #116 
  - Clintonista Centrists Just Don't Have Spines to Stand Up for Anything  GoreDean2008   Jul-04-05 11:07 AM   #51 
  - Nice deal.  Gloria   Jul-03-05 09:49 PM   #2 
  - Filibuster Deal Puts Democrats In a Bind  cal04   Jul-03-05 10:18 PM   #3 
  - this is contrary to other reports that "extraordinary circumstances" were  spooky3   Jul-04-05 04:57 AM   #16 
  - EXACTLY.  Skinner   Jul-04-05 08:49 AM   #22 
  - yep, they're merely settin' the stage...  JRob   Jul-04-05 07:25 PM   #97 
  - Check Janice Brown  OldLeftieLawyer   Jul-04-05 02:56 PM   #87 
  - What a bunch of crap.  Skinner   Jul-04-05 08:48 AM   #21 
  - unless you get to the extreme of either side  Toots   Jul-04-05 08:58 AM   #24 
  - I read it the same way, Skinner  wryter2000   Jul-04-05 09:34 AM   #31 
  - ...it's right behind his Platinum American Express card.  JRob   Jul-04-05 07:29 PM   #98 
  - Don't have the text, but if memory serves me, the purposeful vagueness of  Pachamama   Jul-04-05 01:26 PM   #69 
  - Why not?  jurassicpork   Jul-04-05 02:10 PM   #78 
     - Oh really? They held a vote and the GOP said no? Are you certain?  Pachamama   Jul-04-05 07:45 PM   #101 
        - You're EXACTLY RIGHT re Gonzalez -- READ THIS, people  Eloriel   Jul-05-05 10:03 AM   #117 
           - Ruse....that's the word I was looking for....  Pachamama   Jul-06-05 12:33 AM   #128 
  - You're overlooking the precedent that was created  OldLeftieLawyer   Jul-04-05 02:55 PM   #85 
  - This is what I have believed & feared...and knowing one of our DU Legal  Pachamama   Jul-04-05 07:53 PM   #103 
  - It creates no precedent. A political compromise to allow votes  spooky3   Jul-05-05 03:58 PM   #123 
  - The problem is that Biden doesn't speak for the 14  enough already   Jul-05-05 06:42 AM   #108 
  - Hey, Skinner, I sent a tip to MediaMatters.org--check this out:  spooky3   Jul-05-05 03:56 PM   #122 
  - That deal allowed us to fight another day, so let's fight them  Strawman   Jul-05-05 11:00 AM   #118 
  - Is this deal  Mz Pip   Jul-03-05 10:24 PM   #5 
  - Isn't this called a double-cross? What the hell good was this "deal"?  confludemocrat   Jul-03-05 10:49 PM   #6 
  - what if they just renominate one of the judges from the deal?  pocket   Jul-03-05 11:10 PM   #7 
  - I'd say "lack of experience" could be an extreme circumstance  orangepeel68   Jul-04-05 12:00 PM   #56 
  - Supreme court is a vastly more important position.  dmordue   Jul-04-05 02:08 PM   #77 
  - I would suggest  MadisonProgressive   Jul-03-05 11:20 PM   #8 
  - Thank you Ben Nelson  CityDem   Jul-03-05 11:22 PM   #9 
  - That accusation is unfair  ElTexican   Jul-04-05 04:12 AM   #15 
  - Welcome to DU, Texican  wryter2000   Jul-04-05 09:35 AM   #33 
  - Your number 2 is some nice spin  Emerson   Jul-04-05 04:35 PM   #91 
  - I agree  depakid   Jul-04-05 03:32 PM   #90 
  - Any REPRESENTATIVE who plays along with this sham  Malikshah   Jul-03-05 11:23 PM   #10 
  - So throw out the deal  high density   Jul-03-05 11:26 PM   #11 
  - agreed  upoceg   Jul-04-05 01:46 PM   #73 
     - Exactly  OldLeftieLawyer   Jul-04-05 02:59 PM   #88 
        - Yes clinton did fine  Emerson   Jul-04-05 04:38 PM   #92 
  - So since only Republicans have superior ethics and character  pinkpops   Jul-03-05 11:34 PM   #12 
  - Sure was a great deal ...  ngGale   Jul-03-05 11:35 PM   #13 
  - Unfortunately, even Reid has suggested pro-life nominees ...  ElTexican   Jul-04-05 04:10 AM   #14 
  - Interesting terminology you use  Emerson   Jul-04-05 04:43 PM   #93 
     - I asked my friend Pete. His response was wavy lines coming out of his head  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-05-05 11:10 AM   #119 
  - What were they thinking?  BooScout   Jul-04-05 06:18 AM   #18 
  - Since when did being fair and honest come into it?  goclark   Jul-04-05 07:15 AM   #20 
  - Cow pies! Here's a link to the text of the so-called deal:  struggle4progress   Jul-04-05 08:50 AM   #23 
  - THANK YOU!  Skinner   Jul-04-05 09:05 AM   #26 
  - Yeah, that's key: "each signatory must use his or her own discretion..."  confludemocrat   Jul-04-05 02:07 PM   #76 
  - This is why I don't let my emotions...  Andromeda   Jul-05-05 04:59 AM   #107 
     - No false conclusions here...  mirrera   Jul-05-05 07:58 AM   #111 
  - This article also shows some infighting that may occur  Carla in Ca   Jul-04-05 05:00 PM   #95 
  - Simple answer  CoolOnion   Jul-04-05 09:16 AM   #27 
  - "...we don't need no steeenkin deals"  marty13   Jul-04-05 09:30 AM   #30 
     - Hi, Marty!  wryter2000   Jul-04-05 09:37 AM   #35 
     - It'll be interesting to see who he picks  CoolOnion   Jul-04-05 09:44 AM   #40 
     - Welcome to DU, Marty 13!  rocknation   Jul-04-05 09:50 AM   #42 
     - Welcome to DU Marty13.  Chipper Chat   Jul-04-05 01:46 PM   #74 
  - Hmmm  wryter2000   Jul-04-05 09:30 AM   #29 
  - The Republican spin kickoff....  Neecy   Jul-04-05 09:34 AM   #32 
  - Exactly--the Washington Post article is by STENO SUE SCHMIDT  pacoyogi   Jul-04-05 12:20 PM   #57 
  - Whatever.  scdusek   Jul-04-05 09:36 AM   #34 
  - Welcome to DU  wryter2000   Jul-04-05 09:38 AM   #37 
  - An interesting issue--property rights  CoolOnion   Jul-04-05 10:03 AM   #45 
  - I'd say taking away more of my rights constitutes  yy4me   Jul-04-05 09:37 AM   #36 
  - When Owen and Brown were part of this deal  adigal   Jul-04-05 09:41 AM   #38 
  - You should know a pre-emptive strike when you see one by now  rocknation   Jul-04-05 09:42 AM   #39 
  - You are sooooo right--this article is  pacoyogi   Jul-04-05 12:23 PM   #58 
  - Agree, contentless speculation; bad journalsim, were used to it (n/t)  confludemocrat   Jul-04-05 02:12 PM   #79 
  - Yep, the deal is turning out to be the 'no-win-no-way rollover and kiss  acmavm   Jul-04-05 09:46 AM   #41 
  - Gonzalez would qualify as "extra-ordinary circumstances"  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jul-04-05 09:54 AM   #43 
  - Gonzales has been declared a "no-go" by the religious right....  Olney Blue   Jul-04-05 11:19 AM   #52 
  - if the dems had stood their ground without this giveaway  ooglymoogly   Jul-04-05 09:57 AM   #44 
  - Dumb question here.  Proud_Lefty   Jul-04-05 10:12 AM   #46 
  - Not a dumb question Proud Lefty! Very good question indeed!  Pachamama   Jul-04-05 01:33 PM   #70 
     - Thanks  Proud_Lefty   Jul-04-05 01:39 PM   #72 
        - WWFD?  jurassicpork   Jul-04-05 02:13 PM   #80 
           - Hard to address this without sarcasm  Proud_Lefty   Jul-04-05 02:55 PM   #86 
  - Of course if the nuclear option was inacted...  dmordue   Jul-04-05 10:14 AM   #47 
  - IF...? What is different?  mirrera   Jul-05-05 08:30 AM   #112 
  - If Dubya names a rightwing ideologue to replace O'Connor ...  damntexdem   Jul-04-05 10:37 AM   #48 
  - fuck 'em  woosh   Jul-04-05 10:50 AM   #49 
  - Would they actually pay though????  HannibalBarca   Jul-04-05 02:29 PM   #83 
  - I hate the 14  adarling   Jul-04-05 10:59 AM   #50 
  - What happens if they outlaw the fillibuster as threatened.  dmordue   Jul-04-05 11:28 AM   #53 
     - i feel like they are going to try and do it anyways  adarling   Jul-04-05 12:36 PM   #63 
     - I agree..if they don't think about the future, they get what they deserve!  drmom   Jul-04-05 07:34 PM   #99 
     - America then hopefully wakes up & sees the GOP as what they really are?  Pachamama   Jul-04-05 01:36 PM   #71 
     - What would happen w/o the filibuster?  jurassicpork   Jul-04-05 02:17 PM   #81 
        - i know, isn't it great?  adarling   Jul-05-05 03:03 PM   #120 
           - Andrew  jurassicpork   Jul-05-05 03:50 PM   #121 
              - thank you  adarling   Jul-05-05 04:52 PM   #124 
  - Why can't the Dems come out with spin like this?  gulliver   Jul-04-05 11:36 AM   #54 
  - Sold out again by our leadership, corrupt or inane?  FreeStateDemocrat   Jul-04-05 12:27 PM   #59 
  - Fascists are naturally better at propoganda! (n/m)  Knight of Ni   Jul-04-05 12:42 PM   #64 
  - By definition, a supreme court appointment is "extraordinary."  tedoll78   Jul-04-05 11:53 AM   #55 
  - WHITE HOUSE SPIN TO DISCOURAGE REPUB. MODERATES----  pacoyogi   Jul-04-05 12:30 PM   #60 
  - Christ. What a bunch of dewy-eyed innocents. I said the deal was bad  Pryderi   Jul-04-05 12:30 PM   #61 
  - You are playing into the Republican spin machine.  pacoyogi   Jul-04-05 12:33 PM   #62 
     - That's what I thought when I saw it...consider the source, but do we  MelissaB   Jul-04-05 12:49 PM   #65 
     - We don't ignore it, but I think the response is to do what Skinner  pacoyogi   Jul-04-05 12:58 PM   #66 
        - This is nuts!!!  wake.up.america   Jul-04-05 01:20 PM   #68 
        - I was against the deal but it is likely they discussed future SC nominees  confludemocrat   Jul-04-05 02:23 PM   #82 
        - fuck 'em both... whatever happens they win!  JRob   Jul-04-05 07:54 PM   #104 
     - Didn't preserve much  CityDem   Jul-04-05 03:19 PM   #89 
     - exactly! and what did we get in the "deal"? the right of a reach-around?  JRob   Jul-04-05 07:57 PM   #105 
     - The analysis of what actually happened  OldLeftieLawyer   Jul-04-05 04:57 PM   #94 
        - So will Gorgie pick a Judge or pick a Fight???  Fla4kerry   Jul-04-05 05:30 PM   #96 
        - thank you, thank you, thank you!  JRob   Jul-04-05 08:01 PM   #106 
  - As in "Gonzales," maybe...  AuntiBush   Jul-04-05 07:41 PM   #100 
  - The Democrats Need to Define "extaordinary circumstances"  spanone   Jul-04-05 07:48 PM   #102 
  - Too late. They have already effectively pounced.  The Stranger   Jul-05-05 08:56 AM   #115 
  - Argh!!!!  muchacho   Jul-05-05 07:00 AM   #109 
  - We were all screaming about this when it happened,  mirrera   Jul-05-05 07:17 AM   #110 
  - Come on, people. That is an EASY one.  The Stranger   Jul-05-05 08:55 AM   #114 
  - If the nominee is a rightwing  mmonk   Jul-05-05 05:12 PM   #125 
  - You are a democrat of good moral character unlike some who are elected  FreeStateDemocrat   Jul-05-05 06:05 PM   #126 
  - Heh. Please try to be less shocked...  Voltaire99   Jul-06-05 12:00 AM   #127 
  - If you make a deal with the Devil...  MojoXN   Jul-06-05 10:06 AM   #129 
  - The so-called "deal"  Hardknock   Jul-06-05 02:01 PM   #130 
 

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