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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:11 AM
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143. Partially wrong.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 09:21 AM by w4rma
News media in this country is a business and like most businesses it seeks to maximize profit. In this case, profit is maximized by having more viewers/listeners/readers. One gets more VLRs by telling what people want to hear. Sensational stories will always win out over the more mundane. And feel-good rah-rah yay "American" stories will win out over any resemblance to the objective truth.

Feel good rah-rah yay "American" stories win out because:
1) news outlets are punished by their big buisness advertisers when they write things that might wake Americans up.
2) news outlets are punished by the Republican government when they write things that might wake Americans up.
3) news outlets are punished by the ultra-wealthy stock holders when they write things that might wake Americans up.
4) The major news outlets are owned by big buisnesses and/or ultra-wealthy media moguls who have an interest in not waking Americans up.
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  -Woman (19) charged in rape of boy, 13 Tom Yossarian Joad  Apr-14-05 06:56 AM   #0 
  - How many *men* are charged with rape for having concensual  Triana   Apr-14-05 06:59 AM   #1 
  - Trust me..  sendero   Apr-14-05 07:01 AM   #3 
  - The 'age gap" test only applies in some states.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 07:11 AM   #14 
  - Here in Kansas  StuckinKS   Apr-14-05 11:19 AM   #85 
  - Not often  MollyStark   Apr-14-05 07:55 AM   #23 
  - It's funny...  Triana   Apr-14-05 08:58 AM   #46 
     - You're SO right.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:12 AM   #48 
     - Ha! Sad but true! (n/t)  Triana   Apr-14-05 09:42 AM   #56 
     - That is not the issue..  sendero   Apr-14-05 09:53 AM   #62 
        - How is this newsworthy? We've been bombarded with this for months.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:57 AM   #64 
           - What agenda is that?  sendero   Apr-14-05 10:10 AM   #70 
              - Furthering the divide between the sexes.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 10:12 AM   #71 
                 - I believe in that maxim...  sendero   Apr-14-05 10:18 AM   #75 
                    - You put less credence into Operation Mockingbird than I do, then.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 11:11 AM   #80 
                    - The weakness in the debate about getting the biggest audience is naive  nolabels   Apr-15-05 12:05 AM   #136 
                    - Partially wrong.  w4rma   Apr-15-05 09:11 AM   #143 
     - Maybe...  sendero   Apr-14-05 09:51 AM   #61 
     - Evidence?  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:58 AM   #65 
        - I would agree..  sendero   Apr-14-05 10:12 AM   #72 
           - You don't think it still works?  redqueen   Apr-14-05 10:14 AM   #74 
              - My personal opinion....  sendero   Apr-14-05 10:20 AM   #76 
                 - Not about guilt... this is about how she was treated.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 11:11 AM   #82 
     - Do you have statistics backing up any of this?  youspeakmylanguage   Apr-15-05 11:42 AM   #146 
  - Uhm probably quite a lot.  praxiz   Apr-14-05 07:02 AM   #4 
  - Yeah. Let's stamp out that nasty Y-chromosome! It's evil. Evil!  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 07:02 AM   #5 
  - you're confusing anger at a legitimate issue ....  Triana   Apr-14-05 10:00 AM   #66 
     - That really bothers me, too. n/t  redqueen   Apr-14-05 10:03 AM   #68 
     - Look, PEOPLE do shitty things to PEOPLE.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 01:03 PM   #98 
        - *claps happily* Well said, TahitiNut. :)  frustrated_lefty   Apr-14-05 03:27 PM   #112 
        - exactly my point...  Triana   Apr-14-05 04:18 PM   #117 
           - Bull-fucking-shit.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 05:05 PM   #121 
  - there is a double standard  imenja   Apr-14-05 07:03 AM   #6 
  - Quite a few.  ET Awful   Apr-14-05 07:06 AM   #9 
  - Guys go to jail all the time here...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-14-05 07:20 AM   #15 
  - A LOT  nonconformist   Apr-14-05 07:47 AM   #19 
  - Its because female rapists / pedophiles  entanglement   Apr-14-05 07:53 AM   #22 
  - law regarding this should apply equally and it doesnt (n/t)  Triana   Apr-14-05 07:58 AM   #25 
  - This has nothing to do with pedophilia  MollyStark   Apr-14-05 07:58 AM   #27 
  - That takes nothing away from the nature  entanglement   Apr-14-05 08:17 AM   #36 
     - there are a great many attempts to diminish the crime of child rape  imenja   Apr-14-05 09:47 AM   #59 
     - I seriously doubt it  amazona   Apr-14-05 11:51 AM   #86 
        - we have no way of knowing if this particular allegation is true  imenja   Apr-14-05 02:42 PM   #108 
  - Or are female rapists incorrectly perceived to be far less common,  The Stranger   Apr-14-05 08:04 AM   #33 
     - Sorry, I should clarify  entanglement   Apr-14-05 08:29 AM   #38 
  - Not often enough  MollyStark   Apr-14-05 07:56 AM   #24 
  - I agree (n/t)  Triana   Apr-14-05 07:59 AM   #29 
  - ??????????  GOPBasher   Apr-14-05 08:06 AM   #34 
     - "Fortunately, men always get caught when they do that..."  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:13 AM   #49 
        - Well, first off, I shouldn't have said "always."  GOPBasher   Apr-14-05 09:46 AM   #58 
           - Hell yes.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 10:02 AM   #67 
              - Well I knew that it HAPPENED quite frequently, but I thought that the  GOPBasher   Apr-14-05 10:07 AM   #69 
              - They're usually not.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 10:13 AM   #73 
                 - Oh.  GOPBasher   Apr-14-05 10:59 AM   #79 
              - Boys too  One_Life_To_Give   Apr-14-05 11:11 AM   #81 
              - I agree completely. n/t  redqueen   Apr-14-05 11:12 AM   #83 
              - Yup. Three words: Jon Benet Ramsey.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 01:57 PM   #107 
  - The poor boy is probably scarred for life.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 06:59 AM   #2 
  - Welcome to...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Apr-14-05 07:06 AM   #8 
  - This has been on the local news since last night...  Tom Yossarian Joad   Apr-14-05 07:08 AM   #11 
  - $30,000? Is That All?  ProfessorGAC   Apr-14-05 07:59 AM   #28 
  - In fact, prisons are a huge source of income for the invested. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-14-05 08:35 AM   #43 
  - It's More Than a Bit Wide  Crisco   Apr-14-05 12:51 PM   #97 
  - Could we have height and weight data as well as age?  eridani   Apr-14-05 11:59 PM   #135 
  - I agree with you that he probably won't think he has been impacted, given  hlthe2b   Apr-14-05 07:09 AM   #12 
  - psychologists say boys are scarred by sexual molestation  imenja   Apr-14-05 07:58 AM   #26 
  - So, now it's consensual "sexual molestation"?  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 08:09 AM   #35 
     - Good point. I wonder if the  entanglement   Apr-14-05 08:33 AM   #39 
     - The double-standard is actually codified in Alabama (see #40 below).  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 08:35 AM   #42 
     - oh come on we all know what consensual means  amazona   Apr-14-05 11:55 AM   #89 
        - Yes, I did but not with a 6 year age difference. I was 15 when I lost my  bobthedrummer   Apr-14-05 01:30 PM   #101 
           - Not only are boys influenced to not talk about rape  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-14-05 10:39 PM   #131 
     - whether you are interested in the impact these events have on children  imenja   Apr-14-05 09:02 AM   #47 
        - Thank you, it is highly  entanglement   Apr-15-05 10:00 AM   #145 
  - you read my mind.  xchrom   Apr-14-05 09:27 AM   #52 
  - This is so very wrong--I just don't understand women like this & Latourney  hlthe2b   Apr-14-05 07:05 AM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-14-05 07:08 AM   #10 
  - She's very much in the wrong, but when you deride her with the "glass  hlthe2b   Apr-14-05 07:11 AM   #13 
  - yes  Skittles   Apr-14-05 07:38 AM   #17 
  - I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to convey in this  Bunny   Apr-14-05 07:40 AM   #18 
  - Apparently a number of things...  silvermachine   Apr-14-05 08:34 AM   #41 
  - What do you mean by the "glass ceiling" between her ears?  LostinVA   Apr-14-05 07:48 AM   #20 
  - What is your point?  MollyStark   Apr-14-05 08:02 AM   #31 
  - Sad situation  artfan   Apr-14-05 07:31 AM   #16 
  - Sad situation but very clear  entanglement   Apr-14-05 08:02 AM   #30 
  - Why not a first degree rape charge? n/t  entanglement   Apr-14-05 07:49 AM   #21 
  - Dollar costs to society higher w/older man/yngr wm pairing  Patiod   Apr-14-05 08:03 AM   #32 
  - Vigorous destruction of patient-doctor privilege sure.  Kagemusha   Apr-14-05 08:18 AM   #37 
  - That would be Kansas  proud2Blib   Apr-14-05 08:50 AM   #45 
  - Interesting...  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:21 AM   #50 
  - According to Alabama statutes, women can't be charged with rape.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 08:33 AM   #40 
  - Hell yes, it seems you're right  entanglement   Apr-14-05 08:38 AM   #44 
  - How strange... women can commit Sexual Misconduct but not Rape?  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:23 AM   #51 
  - Well, after all, they're not infected with that evil Y-chromosome.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 09:37 AM   #53 
  - Yeah see I can appreciate sarcasm and humor as much as the next person.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:44 AM   #57 
  - Sad that it's seen as two separate "hills."  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 09:49 AM   #60 
     - That's not what I meant... all of it should be addressed.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 09:56 AM   #63 
        - I truly appreciate it that you got my point.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 01:26 PM   #100 
           - Oh this I know.  redqueen   Apr-14-05 01:32 PM   #103 
              - (OK, I read it.) We're sure on the same page, then!  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 01:36 PM   #104 
                 - YAY!  redqueen   Apr-14-05 01:42 PM   #105 
  - With respect to bicycles...  Ms. Toad   Apr-14-05 10:36 PM   #130 
  - you need to do a search of indictments to determine that  imenja   Apr-14-05 11:54 AM   #88 
     - Aha... thank you. I did not know that. n/t  redqueen   Apr-14-05 12:32 PM   #91 
  - Looks like a male can't be raped either  AuntJen   Apr-14-05 09:37 AM   #54 
  - Alabama doesn't appear to have adapted to Laurence v. Kansas, yet.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 09:41 AM   #55 
     - Correction: "Lawrence v. Texas" (sorry)  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 12:26 PM   #90 
  - statues themselves are not the extent of any law  imenja   Apr-14-05 11:53 AM   #87 
  - I knew I could count on someone ....  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 12:33 PM   #92 
     - are you interested in knowing if women are actually indicted  imenja   Apr-14-05 12:36 PM   #93 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-14-05 12:43 PM   #95 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-14-05 12:50 PM   #96 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-14-05 01:10 PM   #99 
                 - What'd I miss?!  redqueen   Apr-14-05 01:32 PM   #102 
  - So what's "deviate" sex supposed to be?  secretpoet   Apr-15-05 01:23 AM   #138 
  - well beat this  tinanator   Apr-14-05 10:46 AM   #77 
  - "boys will be boys" n/t  redqueen   Apr-14-05 11:13 AM   #84 
  - Rape?  lcbart   Apr-14-05 10:51 AM   #78 
  - Finally  FiveGoodMen   Apr-14-05 01:47 PM   #106 
  - I agree, wholeheartedly.  Kilroy003   Apr-14-05 02:57 PM   #110 
  - Hope y'all remember this  shrike   Apr-14-05 03:16 PM   #111 
  - How about a 13-year-old son having sex with a 19-year-old man?  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 05:21 PM   #122 
  - This is what I was about to post.  Minstrel Boy   Apr-15-05 09:19 AM   #144 
  - Actually I have 3 daughters  lcbart   Apr-14-05 10:20 PM   #127 
  - I agree rape is an overreaction  Jesus Saves   Apr-14-05 04:03 PM   #115 
  - You're stating that from the perspective of an adult...  youspeakmylanguage   Apr-14-05 04:26 PM   #119 
     - Actually, I'm not.  lcbart   Apr-14-05 10:27 PM   #128 
        - I'm guessing you were a well-adjusted teenager...  youspeakmylanguage   Apr-15-05 08:40 AM   #139 
  - I love it  Lilith Velkor   Apr-14-05 12:38 PM   #94 
  - I think the kid got lucky.  Kilroy003   Apr-14-05 02:54 PM   #109 
  - Calling this second degree rape is like  confludemocrat   Apr-14-05 03:33 PM   #113 
  - Good point. Don't you wish there was another word?  eridani   Apr-15-05 12:10 AM   #137 
  - I'm conflicted on this.  frustrated_lefty   Apr-14-05 03:58 PM   #114 
  - As a "culture," I think we're really screwed up about sex.  TahitiNut   Apr-14-05 05:42 PM   #123 
     - Hey, I agree.  frustrated_lefty   Apr-14-05 09:21 PM   #124 
  - These topics bring out the worst in some of us here at DU...  youspeakmylanguage   Apr-14-05 04:10 PM   #116 
  - You got it...  sendero   Apr-15-05 09:01 AM   #140 
  - wow  BadGimp   Apr-14-05 04:25 PM   #118 
  - What i worry about is when.  Sin   Apr-14-05 04:34 PM   #120 
  - Oh NO!!!, not another thread debating about that awful word "SEX"  nolabels   Apr-14-05 09:40 PM   #125 
  - I'm sure that kid is SO traumatised.  darkism   Apr-14-05 09:43 PM   #126 
     - Like really, could have even been the other way around even  nolabels   Apr-14-05 10:30 PM   #129 
     - No, it is NOT just about a word.  frustrated_lefty   Apr-14-05 10:40 PM   #132 
        - Oh, but not parental control?  nolabels   Apr-14-05 11:35 PM   #134 
     - Sarcasm noted.  frustrated_lefty   Apr-14-05 10:45 PM   #133 
     - That isn't the point..  sendero   Apr-15-05 09:05 AM   #141 
     - We don't let ..  sendero   Apr-15-05 09:07 AM   #142 
 

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