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| 145. Those things you mentioned have also been linked |
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to bin Laden and al-Queada or its affiliates/subcontractors/sympathizers etc. bin Laden has also been connected to helping the Somalia warlords that shot down a few Blackhawk helicopters back in '93. bin Laden has also been found to have been working in Kosovo, but with little to no success at getting an extremist group started there. Night club bombing in Bali, bin Laden too.
If such broad generalizations are to be made then lets look at white people here in the states. Atlanta Olympics of '96 (Eric Robert Rudolph), Federal building in Oklahoma '95(Timothy McViegh). I think we need to declare war on white people because they hate us for our freedoms. Lets not forget the Unabomber and his 35,000 word manifesto of 1995.
There is a difference between bin Laden and Islam. bin Laden is not Islam anymore than Rev. Paul Hill or the Rev. Michael Bray are Christians. Those two ministers by the way made their fame by taking part in the fire bombing of planned parenthoods and shooting the Dr.s in the parking lot. Sinn Fein is not Ireland either.
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| -(Mosul) Attack on U.S. Base in Iraq Leaves 24 Dead -thread #3 |
maddezmom |
Dec-21-04 01:45 PM |
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This is just sickening. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-04 01:46 PM |
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My VNV hubby is sick to his stomach...took sedatives and |
Sugarbleus |
Dec-22-04 12:41 AM |
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C'mon, isn't it better that we're fighting them over THERE???? |
BlueEyedSon |
Dec-21-04 01:47 PM |
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Fucking Bullshit |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-04 01:50 PM |
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Help please. |
MisterCompletly |
Dec-21-04 02:44 PM |
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Germany and Japan were allies. If we declared war on one... |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-21-04 02:46 PM |
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Dec-21-04 02:49 PM |
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Remind them about the Iran-Iraq war. |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-21-04 02:57 PM |
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Go read about December 11, 1941 |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Dec-21-04 06:58 PM |
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Germany declared war on us first |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:49 PM |
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Correct |
shrike |
Dec-21-04 02:58 PM |
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didnt read the whole thread but |
Kemet |
Dec-21-04 02:55 PM |
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Germany declared war on us. It's a stupid comparison. eom |
geek tragedy |
Dec-21-04 02:56 PM |
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Dec-21-04 03:05 PM |
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Ask them when precisely Iraq declared war on the U.S. |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:06 PM |
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You have no answer to bald-faced lies? eom |
geek tragedy |
Dec-21-04 03:32 PM |
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Dec-21-04 03:51 PM |
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Maybe it was because the U.S. has propped up dictatorships |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:54 PM |
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The Islamic world did? I don't think so... |
Spazito |
Dec-21-04 04:26 PM |
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Dec-21-04 04:41 PM |
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So now you're claiming that Al-Queda represents all of Islam? |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 04:41 PM |
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Dec-21-04 04:55 PM |
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You claimed the "Islamic world" (sic) declared war on us first. |
Jesus H. Christ |
Dec-21-04 05:39 PM |
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No, the "Islamic world" did no such thing |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Dec-21-04 07:00 PM |
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Actually a Guernsey is much more attentive to Engish |
saigon68 |
Dec-22-04 12:05 PM |
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But it's the proud subject of many a RW clone email. eom |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Dec-21-04 10:30 PM |
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Germany Declares War on US 11December... |
radar |
Dec-21-04 03:02 PM |
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Tell them to read a history book cuz the Germans declared war |
Sterling |
Dec-21-04 04:48 PM |
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Germany was actively attacking US merchant vessels summer 1941 |
Viking12 |
Dec-21-04 05:08 PM |
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Dec-21-04 05:14 PM |
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And that has jackshit to do with Iraq |
lastliberalintexas |
Dec-21-04 05:34 PM |
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Neither did I realize he was still here. |
LynnTheDem |
Dec-21-04 06:30 PM |
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I think it would help if you (or they) got away from the generalization |
MGKrebs |
Dec-21-04 05:45 PM |
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How come you misspelled "completely"? |
LynnTheDem |
Dec-21-04 06:28 PM |
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Hey, FREEPER |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Dec-21-04 07:02 PM |
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Those things you mentioned have also been linked |
jamesinca |
Dec-21-04 07:44 PM |
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Another dead, ignorant Nazi Freeper FUCK! |
Zhade |
Dec-21-04 07:35 PM |
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germany declared war on us first. right after pearl harbor, btw. |
NuttyFluffers |
Dec-22-04 12:18 AM |
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Germany declared war to US during WWII |
termo |
Dec-22-04 06:36 AM |
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We are serving up Americans on a silver platter |
3days |
Dec-21-04 02:01 PM |
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I'm so sick of hearing this self serving democracy BS. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Dec-21-04 01:50 PM |
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They are not fools |
fertilizeonarbusto |
Dec-21-04 01:51 PM |
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People worldwide do care about democracy |
malaise |
Dec-21-04 05:39 PM |
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Amen Brother! |
Johnny_Ramone |
Dec-21-04 06:31 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
donheld |
Dec-21-04 10:10 PM |
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Thank You! |
Johnny_Ramone |
Dec-22-04 08:22 AM |
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Whoops! |
Johnny_Ramone |
Dec-21-04 06:37 PM |
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"People Worldwide Do Care About Democracy" |
anitar1 |
Dec-21-04 09:19 PM |
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Thank you for an excellent informative POST. This should be made a Thread |
opihimoimoi |
Dec-22-04 11:47 AM |
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From last thread, here's the breakdown as seen to this point |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 01:52 PM |
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aneerkoinos |
Dec-21-04 02:19 PM |
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Okay, by comparison the bloodiest day of Vietnam was 17 Nov 65 |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:25 PM |
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That was 1965 |
Chico Man |
Dec-21-04 02:48 PM |
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Doesn't matter |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:50 PM |
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Pentagon says four missiles were fired, only one struck target |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:05 PM |
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I heard them say on CNN... 'they got lucky" |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 02:22 PM |
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The attackers claim it was a suicide bomb. |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:32 PM |
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The Pentagon says four rockets and three missed |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:34 PM |
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I think it was just a guy with a vantage point and a walkie-talkie |
benburch |
Dec-21-04 02:38 PM |
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That could do it |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:41 PM |
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it was NOT a rocket it was an inside the mess tent job...C4 explosive .... |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-22-04 01:19 PM |
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AP story psy-ops: quotes Patrick Henry "Give me liberty or give me death"! |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Dec-21-04 02:05 PM |
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nice catch |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-04 02:09 PM |
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Hey,...occupation IS liberation,...death IS freedom,...chaos IS democracy. |
Just Me |
Dec-21-04 02:17 PM |
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"embedded" |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Dec-21-04 07:07 PM |
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well, today reached Vietnam proportions |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-21-04 02:15 PM |
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No song will suffice now |
MisterCompletly |
Dec-21-04 02:22 PM |
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At this moment I am sorrowful, and a song is all I can offer. |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-21-04 02:36 PM |
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And even more since 1628 vs my short lifetime in the real |
MisterCompletly |
Dec-21-04 02:40 PM |
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will * now use this as his excuse for the draft being reinstated or for |
bunny planet |
Dec-21-04 02:48 PM |
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Now we're at 24 dead 60 wounded |
lebkuchen |
Dec-21-04 02:18 PM |
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(BBC) Eighteen US soldiers have been killed ... |
Olive |
Dec-21-04 02:20 PM |
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As Chuck Hagel noted today on "Meet the Press" |
lebkuchen |
Dec-21-04 02:23 PM |
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He just left for Camp David, of course |
DS1 |
Dec-21-04 02:28 PM |
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Bad time for Rummy to declare he will sign death certificates by hand |
lebkuchen |
Dec-21-04 02:32 PM |
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I was thinking of sending him a 10-pack of bic pens for Xmas |
DS1 |
Dec-21-04 02:34 PM |
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I can sent him a pack of Skilcraft U.S. Government Fine Points for free |
lebkuchen |
Dec-21-04 02:37 PM |
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We should all send him pens- that's a great idea |
Rose Siding |
Dec-21-04 09:37 PM |
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if lucky he might misplace one and sit on it... |
NuttyFluffers |
Dec-22-04 12:25 AM |
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I just read that... Eighteen US Soldiers killed; attackers claim suicide.. |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:27 PM |
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So Halliburton was LYING about four employees and three subcontractors???? |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:30 PM |
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CNN just reported Pentagon Confirms 19 US Soldiers dead |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:31 PM |
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Damn! |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:32 PM |
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so why is the stock market reacting so joyfully, and reaching such highs?? |
peacebird |
Dec-21-04 07:30 PM |
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Right, the stock market rise was rather sickening |
osaMABUSh |
Dec-21-04 08:24 PM |
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Yeh... so was Halliburton lying, or are their casualty numbers... |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:36 PM |
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Mosul bombing |
michael098762001 |
Dec-21-04 05:10 PM |
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Halliburton |
michael098762001 |
Dec-21-04 05:17 PM |
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So that's 34 for now |
Politicub |
Dec-21-04 07:23 PM |
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I'm betting somebody had a radio transmitter |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:33 PM |
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"a radio transmitter"? Why not a cell phone? |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-21-04 02:59 PM |
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You need some form of triangulation |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:04 PM |
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which makes Chuck Hegel a genius |
lebkuchen |
Dec-21-04 02:35 PM |
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BBC is Blair controlled now...don't think we will hear the truth from them |
KoKo01 |
Dec-21-04 03:06 PM |
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Since they hate us for our freedom, and we're not free anymore, |
spotbird |
Dec-21-04 02:22 PM |
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Poor Rumsfield - now he has to sign all those letters n/t |
medeak |
Dec-21-04 02:32 PM |
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Yeah, crank up the ol' AutoPen... |
KansDem |
Dec-21-04 03:43 PM |
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ABCNews says 19 soldiers dead.... |
GloriaSmith |
Dec-21-04 02:35 PM |
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CNN also says 19 US soldiers dead, confirmed by Pentagon |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:37 PM |
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If we believe the Pentagon, the BBC and Halliburton |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:41 PM |
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That seems to be the right number, Walt. |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:42 PM |
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It fits with a statement from the general, too. Mayhaps 8 people died |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:46 PM |
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Deadliest single attack since we invaded Iraq. |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:49 PM |
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I think we can consider the official number of dead to be 32 now |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 02:53 PM |
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The American People must DEMAND that Rumsfeld step down NOW!! |
VolcanoJen |
Dec-21-04 02:56 PM |
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I don't think so; we'll end up with someone worse considering this |
barb162 |
Dec-21-04 04:01 PM |
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I guess it depends on the badly wounded soldiers.... |
GloriaSmith |
Dec-21-04 02:45 PM |
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Send Rummy some Aleve for Writer's Cramp |
RamboLiberal |
Dec-21-04 03:01 PM |
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The second highest single day death toll. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-04 03:02 PM |
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Aside from the tragedy |
ewagner |
Dec-21-04 02:38 PM |
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good point. n/t |
GloriaSmith |
Dec-21-04 02:47 PM |
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it should have been breaking news a long time ago.... |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 02:50 PM |
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Maybe they had to send extra troops to guard Blair and secure him... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-21-04 03:09 PM |
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they are not guarded by troops... |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 03:21 PM |
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....and they shouldn't stop at the Oval office, how long before |
0007 |
Dec-21-04 03:30 PM |
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*Now* who's "Disgruntled"? |
noshenanigans |
Dec-21-04 02:42 PM |
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They weren't able to hit the actual bases before... |
rocknation |
Dec-21-04 02:45 PM |
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I don't think it was inside the Green Zone |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-04 03:01 PM |
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But they are regularly hitting the Green Zone |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:07 PM |
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"The tents weren't armored," |
vpigrad |
Dec-21-04 02:54 PM |
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How could you armor a tent, anyway??? |
benburch |
Dec-21-04 02:58 PM |
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Actually, this is a permanent emplacement and construction on a |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:02 PM |
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Previous attacks on mess hall. |
kapp |
Dec-21-04 09:41 PM |
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With prostitutes? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-21-04 03:04 PM |
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BBC: Attack on US troops is worst yet (bush* quote) |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 03:02 PM |
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Condi will be playing some nice comforting organ music for him tonight |
KoKo01 |
Dec-21-04 03:12 PM |
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Pictures/Slideshow: Mosul |
Solly Mack |
Dec-21-04 03:07 PM |
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Richmond Dispatch reporting 24 killed and 64 wounded/ BBC not truthful |
KoKo01 |
Dec-21-04 03:15 PM |
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somebody is lying then, because at least 25 are dead |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:20 PM |
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It must be so bad they are hiding it. The Richmond reporter should |
KoKo01 |
Dec-21-04 03:24 PM |
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We really won't know actual death count for at least 24 hours |
Solly Mack |
Dec-21-04 03:22 PM |
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Pictures from the slide show... :( |
Cooley Hurd |
Dec-21-04 03:40 PM |
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Soldier: 'I can't hear, I can't hear!' |
dhinojosa |
Dec-21-04 04:32 PM |
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I'm devistated by the loss of life |
donheld |
Dec-21-04 03:22 PM |
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What part of "WE INVADED IRAQ" do so many Americans NOT get??? |
LynnTheDem |
Dec-21-04 06:53 PM |
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Thank you, thank you!!! |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Dec-21-04 07:12 PM |
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Amazing, virtually no news coverage today !?! |
Catchawave |
Dec-21-04 03:28 PM |
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its disgusting |
rudlop |
Dec-21-04 03:41 PM |
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Mosul coverage |
michael098762001 |
Dec-21-04 05:12 PM |
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it is no where near the coverage of... |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 07:43 PM |
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Rockets? |
rudlop |
Dec-21-04 03:39 PM |
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Sounds like an artillery rocket to me. |
benburch |
Dec-21-04 05:09 PM |
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Accurate rockets are not |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-22-04 08:27 AM |
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"soldiers had specifically raised concerns..." |
MGKrebs |
Dec-21-04 03:57 PM |
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Complete opposite of NPR report....'heavily guarded" |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 04:32 PM |
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Numbers started out at 20, went up to 22, then 24, now back down to 22 |
Walt Starr |
Dec-21-04 03:59 PM |
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"I was not angry since I came to France UNTIL THIS INSTANT!" |
LanternWaste |
Dec-21-04 04:38 PM |
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"Battle between democracy and terror" |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-21-04 04:47 PM |
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Golden op for DoD to slip Fallujah dead in here!!!! |
ausiedownunderground |
Dec-21-04 05:03 PM |
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KBR failed to fulfill their contract for a concrete dining hall. |
aquart |
Dec-21-04 05:36 PM |
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OMG, what happened? |
Zech Marquis |
Dec-21-04 05:42 PM |
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IraqNam! |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 05:47 PM |
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Reply to #120 above. |
dzoner |
Dec-21-04 05:52 PM |
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This is just out of control!!! |
goforit |
Dec-21-04 06:06 PM |
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As Peaceful as |
malaise |
Dec-21-04 06:14 PM |
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Fort Lewis Awaits Word On Mosul Casualties |
countryjake |
Dec-21-04 06:08 PM |
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Two Mainers dead, 12 wounded in Mosul attack (Local reporter on scene) |
MaineDem |
Dec-21-04 06:12 PM |
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My deepest sympathies to their families |
Solly Mack |
Dec-21-04 07:05 PM |
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70 percent of military voted for bush.... |
readmylips |
Dec-21-04 07:45 PM |
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You wanna back that up with a link? |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 09:14 PM |
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More like 50-50 Bush/Kerry votes |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Dec-22-04 02:18 PM |
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sad sad sad.... |
leftchick |
Dec-21-04 07:45 PM |
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Bush = War = Deaths |
ckramer |
Dec-21-04 06:21 PM |
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but at least GAYS can't get married |
peacebird |
Dec-21-04 07:32 PM |
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Thank Gawd fer dat |
Mr_Spock |
Dec-21-04 09:25 PM |
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Tony Blair must feel like a total arse being in Iraq today |
osaMABUSh |
Dec-21-04 08:35 PM |
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Of course * is dealing with it by attending the.... |
IowaGuy |
Dec-21-04 09:37 PM |
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I feel awful for their families |
Bush was AWOL |
Dec-21-04 09:13 PM |
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It's 29 dead to date; US military figure @ 22= for soldiers only |
LynnTheDem |
Dec-21-04 09:17 PM |
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My sincerest condolences to the families |
Bitter Betty |
Dec-22-04 12:35 AM |
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Will the right wing spin this for Bush? |
daleo |
Dec-22-04 12:36 AM |
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Does anyone else think someone had help from the inside to get this done? |
ALiberalSailor |
Dec-22-04 12:37 AM |
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It's speculated. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-22-04 12:53 AM |
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Lots of local contractors/Iraqi civilians are being "employed"... |
ALiberalSailor |
Dec-22-04 02:35 AM |
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Were you one of the fighters in Somalia? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-22-04 08:01 AM |
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Ha Ha Ha. No. I was stationed on the USS TRENTON... |
ALiberalSailor |
Dec-22-04 11:21 AM |
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Where are Rumsfelds glib replies now???? |
Paleocon |
Dec-22-04 05:42 AM |
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What is it with Rummy's love affair with canvas in a war zone? |
lebkuchen |
Dec-22-04 12:12 PM |
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I love the smell of canvas in the morning... |
Paleocon |
Dec-22-04 01:44 PM |
#178 |