Reply #124: Again, try reading in the context of what I was responding to.

[No Elephants]

Posters were mentioning things like Kennedy being ill.

They were talking about the numbers in the Democratic Caucus in general, saying we NEVER had 60 votes in the Caucus. I answered in kind.

They specifically cited Lieberman, who has been used as an excuse for a lot that simply is not so. Yes he opposed health care, but not everything Democrats ever wanted. So, I pointed out Lieberman specifically supported leaving gay marriage to the states, meaning he could not be automatically eliminated from the Caucus on this issue.


They were also talking as though every substantive vote requires 60 Senators. It doesn't, so I responded in kind to that too, saying it was 60 for cloture and 50 plus Biden on substance.

Show me where I said specifically we had 60 votes for repeal of DOMA or for cloture on repeal of DOMA. You can't.