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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:15 AM
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17. frankieT
frankieT

Russia are doing exactly the same as US have been doing for decades.. And the funny thing about it, if something funny is to find in it. Is when Russia are doing it, then it is bad, but when USA is doing it, then it is good.. And after the utterly failure in Iraq, the US have no right, or power in their arsenal to get Russia into line... And even that many is feeling, and seeing Russia as the big ugly enemy who are attaching the poor Georgia, the fact on the ground are not exactly the same.. Georgia have for years working hard to get their hand of the outbreak provinces, who are full of strategic metals, and other stuff the Georgian needs to get out of the quagmire they are in economical.. Specially when you are seeing on the map, where the oil and gas pipes are been lining up.. Then you would understand far better why Georgia want this areas to be under THEIR control.. After this little war, where the russian army was sending both the Georgians a message, but also the rest of the world a message. That they are back, and would not tolerate any more misgivings about their ability to get to war.. Even if the weapons the russian was using was old, and no match for the modern warfare... It could still give a enemy big problems...

The NATO alliance who was coming to eastern and Central europe in the 1990s, was maybe less provocable, than the 2004 expansion, who was taking the alliance to the doors step of Russia.. As you point out to, US and Russia had an agreement about it, and then the west broke it.. In 1998, Russia could not do so much about it, because they have their own, larger problems to work with, than that Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic was given a pass into NATO.. But the 2004 membership, of country who traditionally have been in the Russian "sphere of influence" was something more dangerous.. I recall who Russia was against the whole expansion to the Baltic States.. But it some what fade away, when NATO assured Russia that the alliance would not have military bases on baltic ground.. They have read their history about NATO member Norway I guess.. Who in the 1949 had agreed about membership in the alliance, but not allowed foreign forces to have bases on Norwegian soil.. And it worked for the cold war.. The Russians was at least not THAT angry about it..

Russia have a long history of been attached by the west. And I would not a minute surprises if US was to plan to encircled the Russian Federation, and if possible attack Russia from the behind.. A frontal assault on the Eastern border would give Russia enough time to get their military might together for a new war.. But a attack in the back, specially in the Caucasus area would be so much more painfully for Russia to answer.. If US managed to beat Russia's large military reserves in the Caucasus, then Russia would really be in trouble... In the Cold war, the russian have been building up many bases, who could withstand a war in the caucasus for man years. But after 17 year of almost no founding, I am not sure how the bases are today... And even if they was getting their founding, it would be difficult to confront a far more modern army like the US.. To beat Georgia was no difficult task, but it is some what more difficult to defend against a far superior army like the US.. And the Russians know that... In fact even Hitler, know that if Whermact was coming to the caucasus, they could posible hit the russian from behind.. And as Hitler himself was telling his general once.. If they was coming to the Caucaus, they could hit the Russian underbelly and strike out against what ever the Russian posible could send to that front... And even too, take the posession of all the oil the german army was needing... Thankfully the russian stoped the German forces before they could reatch Caucasus, even that, the german forces was planting their flag on Elbrus montain top.. That was the last of what the german forces could do. After that, it was just pushing west for the german forces...

Cool, a french too;). Good to know:. And your english is good enough for me, and I would guess good enough for everyone else to. And I have been here on DU for many year, but have not been writing so long then, maybe a year or so. Was fidning it, before the Iraq war, and have been there since,.... And I have to say, the french had it righ when they was against the war in Iraq.. And that was posible the most of europe to..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language





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