Reply #37: It seems to me that BUSH and his cohorts decided that one IWR wasn't enough

[LeftishBrit]

AIPAC may well be going along with them, but what makes you think that anyone, except perhaps Halliburton through Cheney, is giving the government orders? They can make their bad decisions very well on their own.

I disagree with lots of what the Israeli government does, but blaming Bush's bad foreign policy on them is paranoid at best. It would IMO be closer to the truth to turn that saying on its head and say that some of the Israeli government's bad policies, like some of ours, are due to Bush egging them on. But ultimately bad governments - ours, yours, Israel's, Poland's, China's, Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all's - have to take responsibility for their own actions and not blame other countries or organizations (on the right here, usually the Europaean Union), or any group of 'bloody foreigners'.

There seems to be a recent pattern of American (and sometimes British)governments getting involved in, or even starting, self-defeating imperialist wars in other regions; and of 'liberal' politicians being too afraid of seeming unpatriotic to resist this as firmly as they should. Vietnam. Reagan's messes in Central America. Now Iraq. Did Israel order America to get involved in Vietnam or Central America? It seems to me that American goverments did these things. Not Israeli ones.